Posted on 03/03/2018 4:48:19 AM PST by newnhdad
need advice. I have an adolescent with sever behavioral issues. Suicidal thoughts, violent behavior, bursts of emotion, anger and very drastic mood swings. Like you see in the movies about crazy people, but from a 12 year old.
we have tried all sorts of therapy but nothing seems to move the needle. The last evaluation mentioned posbile hospitalization and medications. Does anyone have experience with this?
I am going to sound like a kook but your family may be under demonic attack. FR offers the best advise anywhere and if that isn’t working the prayer machine here is unmatched.
Saint Michael the archangel
defend us in battle
be our protection
against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
May God rebuke him
we humbly pray
and do thow
O prince of the heavenly host
by the power of God
cast into hell Satan
and all the evil spirits
that prowl about the world
seeking the ruin of souls.
Amen
LYME LYME LYME
all these are symptoms of neurological LYME - go to youtube look for Dr. Steven Phillips
read up
if your kid camped and so on
the test - even the better - Western Blot - is only accurate 40% of the time - most people who get a red circle get it only after a prior bite - and many do not - the absence of these diagnostic criteria is not definitive, contrary to public misinformation
nor is the idea that LYME gone untreated for some time is incurable
must go to a ‘LYME LITERATE’ doctor - as this field of medicine is a mix of science and art and intuition and a lot of old fashioned medical skills and perceptions
one diagnostic criterion is if the condition is ‘unexplainable’ or is met with a variety of various diagnoses
p.s.
Sometimes parents go to the extreme and hear the advice that they want to hear which is the opposite of what they need.
For example, over controlling parents see advice about being in charge of the child and become even more over-controlling. Disconnected parents see advice about giving the child some space and become even more disconnected. So consider that and be honest in your self-assessment as to whether your actions could be contributing and your “fixes” could be making things worse. (Not trying to criticize your parenting and hopefully this is not an issue. But mentioning it just in case.)
Remember that if you keep trying the same things - or more of the same things - you are likely to get the same results. That doesn’t mean that trying something new, just because it is new, will fix the problem. But examining patterns and thinking about some logical alternatives is a good place to start.
Not a specialist but it sounds like some sort of therapy needs to be continued to see if it can be figured out why the deal is happening...prayers up for you and the suffering 12 year old.....it will try your patience, hurt your heart and give you an opportunity to shine in God’s world....Good Luck and God Bless.
BUMP - EXCELLENT THREAD. Thanks, FRiends!
For most medical issues that is correct. For adolescent psychiatry not so much. In some cases they won't even take the patient.
McLeans in Belmont is where to go.
In this case the kid seems like they may have bipolar depression or some other mood disorder. In those cases SSRI class drugs often make kids dramatically sicker, since they induce hypomanic mixed states and other very undesirable situations.
General practitioners can easily misdiagnose other serious mood disorders in adolescents as depression, since the symptom they see from the kid is depression and the other symptoms of, for example bipolar disorder, are harder to detect in adolescents. For example, rapidly shifting moods indicate a different kind of disorder - and suggest not using SSRI anti-depressants. But teenagers tend to have rapidly shifting moods anyway, so mild examples of that don't get recognized except by specialists.
Medications are important, but for the kind of problem described by the poster you need careful intervention by a specialist in adolescent psychiatry.
I think I said that..
http://drhyman.com/blog/2018/01/16/heres-heal-broken-brains-nutrients/
I was just trying to emphasize that SSRI based medications, the first line choice for depression, are sometimes prescribed before the doctors involved realize that they are inappropriate for the particular patient. Parents of kids with more complex mood disorders should be aware of that.
I must have missed that information in your posting.
I might do that to cure my severe case of misanthropy
Sunshine. Have you tried a couple of hours of sunshine every day? In the winter that can be substituted for by the supplement Vitamin D-3. I have seen three cases of manic depression completely fixed by sunshine daily and or vitamin D-3, one is my daughter who was zombied on Xanax for years until she started the D-3.
Make sure blood tests include vit d3...and make sure doc is current on right levels....ie 50-70 for adults
What is his diet like? Get rid of as much sugar as possible. Try to get to a very diverse vegetable diet with plenty of protein.
Then get outdoors - plenty of long walks, wild and natural landscapes preferred. Put him in situations where he has no choice but to interact with you.
While doing so...overly assert your love and pray together.
Much of the influences and habits of life today are poison to the young.
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My wife and I have experienced similar issues with four of our five kids. Depression, wild mood swings, suicidal thoughts and anxiety issues. Also, one child engaged in self harm by cutting and another has ADD.
Having had no prior experience with anything similar prior to getting married and having kids, I felt utterly lost like a traveler in a foreign land with a map and no knowledge of the language.
We tried a number of things: starting with what felt safe and easy and advancing to what felt risky and scary. Therapy, dialectic counseling, biofeedback, meditation, support groups, and eventually prescription medication. Mostly SSRI meds. Today I am grateful that I overcame my initial prejudice against meds. For us, they have been a godsend and represent an essential part of my children’s treatment.
I echo the recommendation to seek help at a Children’s Hospital if available. Our experience has been that the medical professionals there have the best training and treatment approaches.
You can do this. Be open to new ways of treatment, but trust your intuition. God bless and prayers.
Look up the book Saving Sammy. Not to say this is the same thing, but a lot of these behavior type issues are caused by physical issues. Modern medicine is only now starting to accept it, Find a doctor like that described in the book. The author of that book, Beth Alison Maloney, has written a second book Childhood Interrupted, that has helped many people like you. Hope you find the solution.
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