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Meanwhile, a new Washington Post-ABC News survey released this week found that more than 6 in 10 Americans fault Congress and Trump for not doing enough to prevent mass shootings.

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Sanders said Tuesday that increasing the minimum age for purchasing a semiautomatic weapon is “certainly something that’s on the table for us to discuss and that we expect to come up over the next couple of weeks.”

Now this is the Washington Post and their anonymous sources, but I think it's important to put out there. I think people here would probably feel strongly about the content of this article and the issues raised.

1 posted on 02/20/2018 8:42:57 PM PST by Pinkbell
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Evidently, Javanka didn’t mention the 10th Amendment in their latest memo to POTUS.


2 posted on 02/20/2018 8:47:00 PM PST by rfp1234 (I have already previewed this composition.)
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Trump is a brilliant strategist folks. He’s throwing cold water on all over the Left’s anti-gun kooks. And this memo? It’s just that...it’s not the law and Trump will never sign a gun control bill even if it miraculously passes the House.


3 posted on 02/20/2018 8:48:28 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (If the illegal immigration issue were Social Security, it'd be privatized by now.)
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Our side needs to start protesting in front of pharmaceutical companies that make the drugs a lot of these kids are on.


4 posted on 02/20/2018 8:50:13 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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Can’t give the democrats any issue to rally their base for the midterms.

Bump stock? Never heard of it. Won’t miss it.


5 posted on 02/20/2018 8:50:32 PM PST by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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The Compost is in full propaganda mode. This is purely designed to detach the President’s base from him.


8 posted on 02/20/2018 8:57:48 PM PST by TexasGurl24
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already sent an email firmly opposing the President on this.

bad mistake on his part.


9 posted on 02/20/2018 8:58:20 PM PST by dadfly
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Advance the liberal agenda, Mr. Trump, and I will be more than happy to sit out 2018 and let them deal with you.

I have no need, want or use for anyone pushing meaningless laws and attacking my civil rights for something I didn’t do.

If that’s what you want to do, you can do it without me.

Consider it a warning, only going to say it once.


10 posted on 02/20/2018 8:58:29 PM PST by chris37 (Take a week off racist >;-)
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I dont get it. He can never go far enough for the gun grabbers. Anything he does that is less than full confiscation will not be valued or appreciated by the left and it just pisses off the right. I don’t get the benefit for doing a “little gun control”.


11 posted on 02/20/2018 8:58:38 PM PST by 1malumprohibitum
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Florida voted two to one today to not ban ARs.


13 posted on 02/20/2018 9:04:28 PM PST by Mouton (The MSM is a clear and present danger to the republic.)
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I’ve read the memo. It it very carefully-worded and does not call for banning bump stocks. It instructs the AG to propose a rule “banning all devices that turn legal weapons into machineguns.”

As the memo acknowledges, the ATF under Obama already determined that bump stocks do no such thing.

I don’t like this memo—I think the NFA and Gun Control Act should be repealed and that the right to own a machine gun is protected by the Second Amendment—but it is not quite what the headlines suggest.


14 posted on 02/20/2018 9:04:52 PM PST by The Pack Knight
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Like it or not, the Left had their entire playbook teed up and ready to go at the next shooting - and our side never had a chance.

The bottom line is that Trump needs to give a bit, or we get WIPED OUT in November. I just hope he doesn’t go too far, or at least that the Republicans in the House stop him.


17 posted on 02/20/2018 9:08:06 PM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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Yes, lets talk strategy--(1) Get rid of dangerous gun free zones; (2) approve and sign national reciprocity, (3) preempt state laws that limit 2nd amendment (else allow that states can equally revoke and ignore 1st and other amendments). And fire FBI management that ignored the reports and danger signs about this kid in Florida.

Nearly every mass killing has mental illness, drugs, or Islam involved. Deal with that!

18 posted on 02/20/2018 9:11:51 PM PST by Reno89519 (Americans Are Dreamers, Too! No to Amnesty, Yes to Catch-and-Deport, and Yes to E-Verify.)
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President trump is jeopardizing his entire presidency with this announcement. I have supported the president since before he even announced he was a candidate but this is not what I voted for. Yes he is extremely good at politics and this could be a head fake but in my opinion even a head fake along these lines could lose the majority in the midterms and this party will be over before it even got started. The reality is Jeff Sessions and the DOJ can do NOTHING legal to stop the sale of these "devices" because quite simply they are not illegal per the LAW. Any federal regulations as such can immediately be challenged in court and if we are a nation of laws they will be thrown out.

Before uninformed among us jump in saying bump stocks are stupid I want to point out he also said "ALL DEVICES" that turn legal weapons into machine guns. First no device turns a firearm into a machine gun that is not already covered and highly regulated by the NFA. The reason we have legal other devices is precisely because they DO NOT turn a semi auto into a machine gun, hence they are legal.

So what we are really talking about is regulation on SHOOTING FAST. This would include light triggers made for precision shooting. Adjustable triggers or even triggers that have a pull weight of less than 20lbs for example which would make it impossible to fire quickly. Bump stocks, binary triggers, trigger cranks, very light weight target triggers, experienced shooters with lighting fast fingers DO NOT PER THE LETTER OF THE LAW turn a semi auto into a machine gun. This is the reason the BATF's hands are tied and MUST approve them and cannot regulate them.

The President needs to meet with Sessions and make an announcement that the LAW would need to be changed in order to regulate any of these devices and advise he does not support such law as it violates the second amendment.

In my opinion this could spell the end of the Trump presidency if some kind of onerous unconstitutional regulation comes out of this administration. The president will lose a major portion of his base and even those that are on the fence will begin to lose faith. The mid terms are coming. The second amendment is as sacred as the first and cannot be bargained with in any way without dire consequences.

25 posted on 02/20/2018 9:15:12 PM PST by precisionshootist
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Trump will do whatever is politically expedient at the moment. He is not a politician nor does he have an ideology or firm beliefs. He just takes up whatever is more popular position at the moment.

Since this Florida shooting, Americans are crying for gun control now, that’s why you see Trump taking the issue up.


33 posted on 02/20/2018 9:28:36 PM PST by Angels27
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Two things can cause Trump to lose support.
Amnesty and gun control.


35 posted on 02/20/2018 9:28:50 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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The only solution at this point is to have armed personnel on site who can RETURN FIRE. These punks know they are killing fish in a barrel. That needs to change.

Liberal policies have unleashed this crap on us all. 2nd Amendment policies need to prevail.


47 posted on 02/20/2018 9:46:56 PM PST by bluejean (The lunatics are running the asylum)
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And yet they also want the voting age lowered.

It’s insulting how stupid they believe we are.


48 posted on 02/20/2018 9:47:06 PM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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I want to point out again and again and again if needed.

The president said "ALL DEVICES" not just bump stocks. Can I make it more clear. "ALL DEVICES" , "ALL DEVICES" , "ALL DEVICES".

That definition can be nearly anything used to FIRE a semi automatic firearm. A regulation like this could and would almost certainly be turned into a complete ban on ALL semi automatic firearms.

There are people posting in this thread that don't have a clue about what they are saying or what has been proposed.

59 posted on 02/20/2018 9:56:56 PM PST by precisionshootist
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Can’t have gun control without a secure border.


67 posted on 02/20/2018 10:11:32 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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Here we go again. More hand-wringing will come from the #NeverTrump and pearl-clutching crowd about how the President is going to betray all of the Deplorables, and then—when the dust clears—it'll be like it is every other time: no betrayal.

There ain't gonna be any semi-auto ban. That's just a wet dream from the Democrats, who are feeling their oats and think this phony progressive punk—Sir Dennis Eton Hogg or whatever this little snot propagandist kid's name is —is going to lead them into the promised land of authoritarian, uconstitutional gun control.

It's not going to happen; this little pied piper of Tyranny has just about used up his 15 minute power trip. His propaganda is so manipulative and is being so transparently guided by the heavy-handed Media, that—once again—they have grossly overplayed their hand, and their true agenda stands exposed for all to see.

The President will get some gun legislation passed, but it will be crafted by Republicans, and it won't be what the Dems want.

83 posted on 02/20/2018 10:37:33 PM PST by sargon ("If the President doesn't drain the Swamp, the Swamp will drain the President.")
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