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Trump’s base warms to Ted Cruz after president’s amnesty ‘betrayal’
The Washington Times ^ | Tuesday, February 20, 2018 | By S.A. Miller

Posted on 02/20/2018 8:41:41 PM PST by TBP

They aren’t calling him “Lyin’ Ted” anymore.

Sen. Ted Cruz’s stock is rising among members of President Trump’s base who feel double-crossed after the president offered amnesty to illegals in the immigration debate. Some who opposed Mr. Cruz in his 2016 run for the White House are even clamoring for the Texas Republican to mount a primary challenge to Mr. Trump in 2020. The newfound esteem for Mr. Cruz, whom Mr. Trump dubbed “Lyin’ Ted” when they battled for the 2016 Republican nomination, is coming from people who were die-hard supporters of the president.

“Ted Cruz has kept his word to the American citizens, and we are watching this very, very carefully,” said Sue Payne, a conservative activist in Washington’s Maryland suburbs who in 2016 championed Mr. Trump and reviled Mr. Cruz. “I’m getting very sick of Donald Trump right now. He’s turning his back on the people who put him in office.”

The moves by Mr. Trump that have alienated supporters include the budget deal that threatens more skyrocketing debt and a tax cut law that could make people pay more in high-tax states.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Cheese, Moose, Sister
KEYWORDS: amnesty; anticruzers; betrayal; chainmigration; cruz; cruzamnesty; cubanadian; fake; fakenews; immigration; nevertrump; nevertrumper; nevertrumpers; nowall; tds; tedcruz; trump; trumpamnesty; trumpimmigration
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To: TBP
No, YOU are wrong!

But even IF I were "wrong", YOU need to get over your Cruz "cultist" attitude as well as well as NOT stating what YOU would have done/would do. You're a nobody, don't know anyone you're talking about, and this topic is not only NOT part of this thread, but absolutely MEANINGLESS!

81 posted on 02/21/2018 2:50:28 PM PST by nopardons
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To: ontap
Oh no it was NOT!

It was and apparently still IS the Cruzites' opinion; however,those of us who were for Trump knew what we we were talking about!

Forget Cruz...he's done/over/finished!

82 posted on 02/21/2018 2:55:19 PM PST by nopardons
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To: All

Ted is fine, he’s not Mr. Constitution, Mr. Conservative, etc. his fan boys often portray him as; he’s not the other things his detractors say.

It was over for Nixon in 1960; saw how that worked out.

Ted’s got problems with me but if he is honest, he can overcome it.

The upcoming Senate race in Texas could be close.

I think a lot of what he does this day, is driven by his current campaign, pleasing his constituency but there really isn’t anything wrong with that.


83 posted on 02/21/2018 3:39:59 PM PST by BeadCounter
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Cruz was pretty much a newbie and lower staff if he was talking about whom should be sitting on the SCOTUS, Luttig or Roberts. He was not the Prez. People change their mind, I wouldn’t get wrapped up in this.


84 posted on 02/21/2018 3:47:02 PM PST by BeadCounter
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To: nopardons
however,those of us who were for Trump knew what we we were talking about!

I notice your tagline is nopardons....I guess you're alright with 1.8 million given amnesty though!!!

85 posted on 02/21/2018 4:23:03 PM PST by ontap
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To: ontap
That's my nic; I don't have a "tagline"!

Cruz was and probably still IS all for amnesty for ALL damned ILLEGAL ALIENS!

I guess that you have forgotten or are just ignoring the fact that Lyin' Ted went to the Texas border with his BFF, old Glen,"WEEPIN', Beck, to hand out toys, teddy bears,water, and HUGS to the INVADING HORDE of damned ILLEGALS.

Thus far, Trump; hasn't done ANYTHING at all ( which would be as ILLEGAL as what wee barry did FOR making DACA to begin with! ) and at this rate, DACA shall expire and be done with, leaving those who did sign up for DACA, immediately removable.

Guess understanding the above, is just far too much for you to comprehend. LOL

86 posted on 02/21/2018 4:37:13 PM PST by nopardons
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To: ontap
I notice your tagline is nopardons....I guess you're alright with 1.8 million given amnesty though!!!

You mean citizenship, even giving them "legal residency" but not a pathway to citizenship is amnesty.

I guess, one is alright with making 1 million chain migrants citizens every year.

And even if that bill were to stop the majority of chain migration outside of the family, legally, it will take 10-17 years to rid our system of it.

87 posted on 02/21/2018 4:54:03 PM PST by BeadCounter
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To: ontap
Just over a year and half or so ago that was every-ones expert opinion on the present occupier of that office!!!

Not here, it wasn't.

And that has NOTHING to do with Ted Cruz, who isn't within rocket range of the vicinity of the neighborhood of Trump's leadership qualities, savvy, courage, or anything else.

Ted will never, thankfully, reach beyond the current level of his incompetence: the U.S. Senate.

88 posted on 02/21/2018 5:10:42 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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People ragging on Ted will turn me back into a supporter of him. Hey, campaigns get dirty, feelings get hurt, he’s not perfect but he showed he’s human. On this issue, I think he is, in part at least, pandering to the hard right and his constituency to turn out the votes for the election. I bring up chain migration, Cruz has spoken on CM and says it needs to end. I’m not sure if he is realistic here.

I’m not an expert. So far, he’s largely been the only one totally against this bill so I don’t think it is that he is the only one who understands and Mike Lee, Rand Paul and others, Tom Cotton, just don’t grasp the situation. But I certainly don’t have this, “bitterness” towards him like some.


89 posted on 02/21/2018 5:37:42 PM PST by BeadCounter
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To: nopardons
So Ted Cruz going to the border with Glen Beck is outrageous but Donald Trump giving citizen ship to 1.8 million is just hunkie dorie...or is that too much for you to comprehend.

DACA shall expire and be done with, leaving those who did sign up for DACA, immediately removable.

But Trump says no one wants to remove them. Certainly not him!!!

90 posted on 02/21/2018 5:37:44 PM PST by ontap
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To: ontap
SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH...you Cruzites need to just get over it!

You're even worse than the Hilary bots!

Oh but they ARE being removed, now; the ones whose signups lapsed, those who commit crimes other than being here illegally!

And Lyin'Teddykins would NEVER have beaten Hilary; so there!

91 posted on 02/21/2018 5:50:51 PM PST by nopardons
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To: ontap

1.8 million are not getting amnesty. Trump did what he did because he was pointing out that even that wasn’t enough for dems.

Cruz in an opportunist. He would not be able to get anything through and he has a habit of caving.


92 posted on 02/21/2018 5:57:07 PM PST by dforest (Never let a Muslim cut your hair.)
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To: ontap

1.8 million are not getting amnesty. Trump did what he did because he was pointing out that even that wasn’t enough for dems.

Cruz in an opportunist. He would not be able to get anything through and he has a habit of caving.


93 posted on 02/21/2018 5:57:14 PM PST by dforest (Never let a Muslim cut your hair.)
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To: TBP
A lot of Democrats are certain winners, also. Should Trump endorse them?

I think you need medication for your severe autism. You just need something to dial it down. Maybe get into playing more puzzles?

94 posted on 02/21/2018 6:22:11 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: nopardons

Your evidence?

Cruz was a Luttig advocate.


95 posted on 02/21/2018 6:45:30 PM PST by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: TBP
This is off topic, I refuse to do your scut work, so just drown your cultist Cruzite sorrows in some tear drenched beers.

Nobody, but NOBODY is "warming up" to him, he's going NOWHERE, and so, if it takes rending your clothes, pouring ashes over your collective heads, wailing, weeping, gnashing of teeth, or even howling at the moon...go do it. :-)

96 posted on 02/21/2018 6:56:57 PM PST by nopardons
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To: dforest
1.8 million are not getting amnesty.

No...according to President Trump they will be on a path to citizenship!! Cruz was the only man the Establishment hated as much as Trump. He was hated because he had a habit of opposing the establishment!!!

97 posted on 02/21/2018 7:04:30 PM PST by ontap
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To: ontap
No...according to President Trump they will be on a path to citizenship!! Cruz was the only man the Establishment hated as much as Trump. He was hated because he had a habit of opposing the establishment!!!

Harvard educated Ted Cruz, made a name for himself that he, stood for the original intent of the Constitution... except for the 'natural born' requirement to hold the office of president... Then Ted Cruz went all Obama, a fellow Harvard supposed educated lawyer. It is beyond sad that so many that are 'natural born' are willing to toss out their God given and protected Constitutional 'gift' to a fast talking Cuban Canadian.

The original intent from the founding fathers gave two US citizen parents the power to bestow 'natural born' US citizenship... birthing their child on US soil. Ted Cruz will never ever be a 'natural born' US citizen....

98 posted on 02/21/2018 7:15:54 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: nopardons
Oh but they ARE being removed, now; the ones whose signups lapsed, those who commit crimes other than being here illegally!

By definition dreamers have not committed any crimes...Trump is presently deporting any illegal who has committed a felony! The 800,000 who have signed up plus the 1,000,000 Trump added are the ones he wants to give a pathway to citizenship. This after he campaigned on "NO AMNESTY" I know you don't want to face up to your hero throwing us under the bus but that's whats happening.....so there!!!

99 posted on 02/21/2018 7:17:00 PM PST by ontap
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To: Just mythoughts

see post #79


100 posted on 02/21/2018 7:19:56 PM PST by ontap
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