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Bitcoin Mining Hindering Search For Alien Life, Scientists Claim
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Posted on 02/20/2018 11:46:35 AM PST by nickcarraway

Scientists searching space for intelligent life already have a difficult job, but some are now saying their task is being made even tougher because of digital currencies like Bitcoin.

“We’d like to use the latest GPUs (graphics processing units)… and we can’t get ’em,” Dr. Dan Werthimer told the BBC. The chief scientist of the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence, or SETI Project, says the surging demand for GPUs from cryptocurrency miners is leaving the computer chips in short supply.

“This is a new problem, it’s only happened on orders we’ve been trying to make in the last couple of months,” Dr. Werthimer added. “That’s limiting our search for extra-terrestrials, to try to answer the question, ‘Are we alone? Is there anybody out there?'”

Graphics processing units are high-performance chips used for processing large amounts of computer data. They have also been used for powering high quality video games and are now being stacked together by cryptocurrency miners to “farm” the online cash.

For SETI, the GPUs are needed to process all the different frequency channels the group monitors in outer space. “We don’t know what frequency ET will be broadcasting on and we want to look for lots of different signal types,” Dr. Werthimer explains. SETI’s telescope and lab at UC Berkeley reportedly uses around 100 GPUs to crunch all of the data coming in from space.

The boom in cryptocurrency’s popularity hasn’t just meant smaller supplies of GPUs available, it’s also sent the price soaring as well. “Strong demand in the cryptocurrency market exceeded our expectations,” tech company Nvidia’s CFO Colette Kress said, via Ars Technica.

“We’ll be able to weather it but it is coming out of our contingency budget.” said Prof. Aaron Parsons of UC Berkeley. “We’re buying a lot of these things, it’s going to end up costing about $32,000 extra.” Prof. Parson and his team were reportedly buying their GPUs for a radio telescope in South Africa. Since his team initially priced the chips at around $500 in 2017, the price has doubled to over $1,000 each.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: bitcoin; boinc; btc; cryptocurrenci; cryptocurrency; gridcoin; seti
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1 posted on 02/20/2018 11:46:35 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

One of these activities is pointless. Perhaps both.


2 posted on 02/20/2018 11:48:50 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The revolution will not be televised (at least, not by CNN).)
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To: nickcarraway
Many, many moons ago I used to have a "screen saver" program on my work and home PCs that would use 'idle processor time' to process SETI radio-telescope data.

Later it changed to searching for cancer cures. Then it went away completely.

3 posted on 02/20/2018 11:50:06 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: nickcarraway
The flip side is that the strong demand is going to drive innovation resulting in ever faster processing speeds and eventually much, much cheaper hardware.
4 posted on 02/20/2018 11:50:36 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The currency may be worth something in the short term, but there is no rule that any putative alien civilization has to use radio to communicate.


5 posted on 02/20/2018 11:53:31 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: nickcarraway

They got plenty at BestBuy:-)
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/computer-cards-components/video-graphics-cards/abcat0507002.c?id=abcat0507002&ref=30&loc=KW-4327&ksid=73be48cc-dcc9-4d04-8b4f-09a5f7040b36&ksprof_id=3&ksaffcode=2231348&ksdevice=c&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIyv_R4KK12QIVk0wNCh1utwl6EAAYAiAAEgIr1vD_BwE


6 posted on 02/20/2018 11:53:39 AM PST by Harpotoo
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The flip side is that the strong demand is going to drive innovation resulting in ever faster processing speeds and eventually much, much cheaper hardware.

Moore's Law.

7 posted on 02/20/2018 11:55:53 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: nickcarraway

Well the good news is that there’s no such thing as Alien life.

It makes for great movies and all, but it just isn’t so.


8 posted on 02/20/2018 11:56:06 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: ClearCase_guy

lol

well played


9 posted on 02/20/2018 11:57:44 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: Yo-Yo

It’s still around. SETIAtHome.


10 posted on 02/20/2018 11:57:56 AM PST by Little Pig
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To: dfwgator

a few years ago I said that here at FR and wow was I ever savaged. but....you are correct.


11 posted on 02/20/2018 11:58:54 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: nickcarraway

Given the vast distances from system to system, any extra-terrestrial civilization communicating via radio are long gone. If they have developed technology beyond RF, then SETI does not detect it, making their endeavor useless except for the possibility of discovery. If (big IF), such a civilization exists, there is absolutely no way to communicate with, let alone meet with, said civilization. If all they seek is discovery via RF, then it should have been discovered by now.


12 posted on 02/20/2018 11:59:42 AM PST by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: PIF
but there is no rule that any putative alien civilization has to use radio to communicate.

Why not pass a law requiring them to?

13 posted on 02/20/2018 11:59:58 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

At least they both have two things in common - one being that they’re both just some guys engaging in self-pleasuring in a circular formation and, second, the guys at the top are the only ones who can count on making good money in their chosen endeavor.


14 posted on 02/20/2018 12:00:30 PM PST by LouieFisk
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To: nickcarraway

Let’s see...search for aliens who want to eat us? Or improve life on earth?

Hard decision, I tell you!


15 posted on 02/20/2018 12:00:32 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I know a couple of guys at my Coffee Bean who just does this: use wifi to look at cryptocurrency manipulations in the market and they’re serious about it. One of them is an actor on TV ( i forgot which station) and he does this part-time.


16 posted on 02/20/2018 12:00:49 PM PST by max americana (Fired libtard employees 9 consecutive times at every election since 08'. I hope all liberals die.)
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To: nickcarraway

Given that Bitcoin has DOUBLED in the past 3 weeks, this GPU problem will only get worse.


17 posted on 02/20/2018 12:01:51 PM PST by montag813
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Which we won’t be able to find to buy.

The unproductive, pointless, electricity wasting make work that is Bitcoin mining should instead be likened to an activity that has greater socially redeeming value to get coins ... like writing fan fictions.


18 posted on 02/20/2018 12:03:11 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: nickcarraway

A gaming pc builder I know just told me about the graphics card and memory shortages now because of mining. He’s quit building til it settles out. Existing g cards worth $$.


19 posted on 02/20/2018 12:04:53 PM PST by polymuser (Its terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterton)
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To: max americana

Part-time actor + cryptocurrency speculator = future resident of a homeless shelter.


20 posted on 02/20/2018 12:05:04 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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