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Harper’s Weekly – February 20, 1858
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| February 20, 1858
Posted on 02/20/2018 6:11:01 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson
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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: civilwar
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To: chajin; henkster; CougarGA7; BroJoeK; central_va; Larry Lucido; wagglebee; Colonel_Flagg; Amagi; ...
The Washington Monument at Richmond, Virginia 1-2*
Editorials 2
The Lounger 2-4
Bohemian Walks and Talks 4-5
The Old Lull House 6
The New Capitol of Canada Ottawa City 7-8
Native Life in India 8-10
My Last Ball 11-14
A Fearful Balloon Adventure 15-17
An Interview with Aaron Burr 17
The War in Mexico 17-20
Miscellany 21
* This article says the second tier of the monument includes a statue of Lee. That could be Lighthorse Harry Lee, A stalwart of the revolution, friend of George Washington and father of Robert E. Lee. But according to the National Park Service, the statue is of Andrew Lewis. Can anyone familiar with the monument explain the change or account for the error? Was Harpers Weekly reporting fake news 160 years ago?
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posted on
02/20/2018 6:12:49 AM PST
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Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
To: Homer_J_Simpson
I don’t know how women kept those dresses from falling right off.
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02/20/2018 9:36:50 AM PST
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Tax-chick
("The societal moronization ... is profound and terrifying." ~Mark Steyn)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
Maybe it was Richard Henry Lee. The men all seem to have been Virginia legislators and members of the Continental Congress.
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02/20/2018 9:38:17 AM PST
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Tax-chick
("The societal moronization ... is profound and terrifying." ~Mark Steyn)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
Wikipedia also says it’s Lewis. Andrew Lewis was a significant figure in Virginia in the Revolutionary and pre-Revolutionary periods. He died of illness just as the Revolutionary War was ending. (Just learned this; I’d never heard of him before!)
Harper’s illustration shows Lee’s name, but photos show each statue with the name cast upon its base, not shown on the stone of the monument, which shows only WASHINGTON.
It looks as though Harper’s has some inaccurate into.
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posted on
02/20/2018 9:47:47 AM PST
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Tax-chick
("The societal moronization ... is profound and terrifying." ~Mark Steyn)
To: Tax-chick
That makes sense but it still leaves the discrepancy between the Harper’s Weekly picture and the National Park Service write up. I just tweeted @NatlParkService about the matter and linked the article. Maybe they will respond.
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posted on
02/20/2018 9:57:12 AM PST
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Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
To: Tax-chick
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posted on
02/20/2018 9:58:43 AM PST
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Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
To: Homer_J_Simpson
Interesting bit with Aaron Burr’s ghost on page 17. I’m not surprised that the author associates Burr with Poe: they had many traits in common.
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posted on
02/20/2018 9:59:04 AM PST
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Tax-chick
("The societal moronization ... is profound and terrifying." ~Mark Steyn)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
It’s possible their artist did not actually see the monument but drew from a description.
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posted on
02/20/2018 10:02:26 AM PST
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Tax-chick
("The societal moronization ... is profound and terrifying." ~Mark Steyn)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
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posted on
02/20/2018 10:09:47 AM PST
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rdl6989
To: rdl6989
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posted on
02/20/2018 10:11:18 AM PST
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rdl6989
To: rdl6989; Tax-chick
Its possible their artist did not actually see the monument but drew from a description.Or the illustrator had a photo that didn't show that side and worked from a guesstimate.
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posted on
02/20/2018 10:18:49 AM PST
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Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
To: chajin; henkster; CougarGA7; BroJoeK; central_va; Larry Lucido; wagglebee; Colonel_Flagg; Amagi; ...
Continued from February 17
(reply #23).
The Diary of George Templeton Strong, Edited by Allan Nevins and Milton Halsey Thomas
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posted on
02/21/2018 6:50:40 AM PST
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Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
To: Homer_J_Simpson
“Betwattled.” New one for me. I have a vague feeling I’d better not use it, though.
To: colorado tanker
I noticed that interesting term, too ... and I suggest you not use it in most situations.
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posted on
02/21/2018 2:36:30 PM PST
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Tax-chick
("The societal moronization ... is profound and terrifying." ~Mark Steyn)
To: Tax-chick
I looked it up and in 1858 it had a benign meaning, something like smitten, but in light of some modern slang I agree I’d better not use it! :-))
To: colorado tanker
The wild lives of actors ... nothing changes.
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posted on
02/21/2018 6:10:21 PM PST
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Tax-chick
("The societal moronization ... is profound and terrifying." ~Mark Steyn)
To: Tax-chick; colorado tanker
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posted on
02/21/2018 6:46:17 PM PST
by
Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
To: Homer_J_Simpson
Mr. Mathews probably knows Edwin Booth, America’s premiere tragedian, and his handsome but rather unpredictable little brother.
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posted on
02/22/2018 9:22:36 AM PST
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Tax-chick
("The societal moronization ... is profound and terrifying." ~Mark Steyn)
To: colorado tanker; Tax-chick
It appears that the shorter vulgar term is actually older, originating with Norse berserkers, when they weren't fighting.
So the longer form came later, perhaps in an effort to gussy up the old girl with a more respectable prefix, and a somewhat different meaning, now surprised, distressed or confused as in romance.
Turns out, the word is not always vulgar.
A village in the Shetland Islands;-)
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posted on
02/22/2018 1:01:31 PM PST
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BroJoeK
(a little historical perspective...)
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