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If you can't block the weapons, remove the targets

Posted on 02/16/2018 8:57:57 AM PST by asinclair

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To: asinclair

Roger that:

Focus on the problem:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/pass-protect-our-schoolchildren-act

Violence against schools can be reduced by hardening the targets. Using a combination of armed security, physical barriers and allowing teachers to conceal carry will make schools a hard target for armed terrorists.

The existence of security alone will act as a deterrent.

Think outside the box: using undercover random ‘school marshals’ like air marshals for schools would add to deterrent effect.


21 posted on 02/16/2018 9:24:27 AM PST by GameHawg
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To: Leaning Right

My post from another thread (former school board chair )

In today’s world why are these schools not locked down? Our schools here are. No one in or out without authorization. You must be buzzed in. This individual was a known problem, was not attending, and was only restricted if he had a back pack? Administration dropped the ball big time here and people payed with their lives. Gross negligence.


22 posted on 02/16/2018 9:26:43 AM PST by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: robroys woman
Most of the graduates of one room school houses could run circles around today's high school graduates in just about any academic subject.

Anyone who doesn't beleive that need only pick up some of the text books and exams which they used.

There would be a whole lot fewer Nick Cruz types produced if we went back (or more correctly, forward) to decentralized schooling.

23 posted on 02/16/2018 9:34:14 AM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: asinclair

In the 70s, several Israeli schools were attacked, most notably, Ma’alot. After the expected military response, schools were individually defended by family members. These “uncle Moshe” and “grandma Ruth” types coordinated among themselves to schedule watches over students. These family members were armed, and at that time, it would be hard to swing a dead chatul (cat) without hitting a pensioner who was blooded in combat.

The next attacks on schools failed because people were willing to defend their children.

If not for these chelev ruim (sheep dogs), attacks might have increased.

If they are worth loving and protecting, they are worth using force to do so. One can get “Left of Bang” with observation, planning, and knowledge, but if bang happens, rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

.02 YMMV

KYPD


24 posted on 02/16/2018 9:35:35 AM PST by petro45acp (It is just that the left,progressive,socialist,antifa,fascist endgame seems so inhuman...unfree)
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To: The Iceman Cometh

Like that line of thinking!!!

KYPD


25 posted on 02/16/2018 9:37:13 AM PST by petro45acp (It is just that the left,progressive,socialist,antifa,fascist endgame seems so inhuman...unfree)
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To: Dr. Pritchett

Or just wait for the news cycle to change and hope it doesn’t happen to you?

_____________________________________________

Bingo.

Every day 3,300 people are killed in car wrecks here in the US. Like everyone, we hope it doesn’t happen to us.

Same with school shootings. The odds are way to small to calculate that your child or mine will be killed in a school shooting, so the left rails against the right, and vice-versa, and in a few days - life goes on.


26 posted on 02/16/2018 9:38:08 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Vote for Responsibility2nd for Mayor of Boston)
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To: gnarledmaw

> “Putting home-schooling aside for the moment, decentralizing schools would be way too inefficient, and too expensive.” <

Okay, then I will provide an example. Consider a large school that has, say, 800 students. That school probably has one fully-equipped chemistry lab. Students who signed up for chemistry will rotate through that lab in the course of the day.

Now let’s decentralize that school. Turn it into four mini-schools of 200 students each. Do you build a fully-equipped chemistry lab in each school, especially since there are now less chemistry students?

Repeat that argument with biology labs, wood shop, etc.

As a side note, I am in general in favor of smaller schools. They are just better for the kids overall. But they are not cost-efficient. That’s why we have large schools in the first place.


27 posted on 02/16/2018 9:41:05 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Leaning Right

By all measures...Sandy hook was a small school.

Spreading the targets out doesn’t eliminate the risk, it means its easier to find a flaw in the security.


28 posted on 02/16/2018 9:44:12 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Burn. It. Down.)
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To: asinclair

There are a lot of “disabled” former law enforcement officers in their 50s.

Congress has the power to raise “armies” as necessary.


29 posted on 02/16/2018 10:05:20 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Responsibility2nd

Sheesh, if I have to read one more post about a sad mommy looking longingly at her precious little ones as they get on the bus again...

Are they precious or not?!?!? Keep them home. Or go to the school board and get an update on what their new security plans entail. After all that’s happened, they must have a plan, right?


30 posted on 02/16/2018 10:06:50 AM PST by Dr. Pritchett
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To: Leaning Right

“Now let’s decentralize that school. Turn it into four mini-schools of 200 students each. Do you build a fully-equipped chemistry lab in each school, especially since there are now less chemistry students?”

“Repeat that argument with biology labs, wood shop, etc.”

The UK spent a lot of money for chemistry lab waste disposal.

For wood shop, junior might spend 9th grade in school A.

For biology lab, junior might spend 10th grade in school B.


31 posted on 02/16/2018 10:08:49 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: asinclair
Democrats NEVER allow FACTS to enter their RANT !

DemocRATS NEVER STOPS LYING !

Dana Loesch nailed him on his lies!
Watch her June 18, 2015 monologue as her passion for defending the TRUTH about gun violence in the United States compared to other countries, blew the ARAB-KENYAN TURD right out of the water !
Here she is with John Lott talking about Gun “Control”, going into more detail, and disproving Barack Hussein Obama II, (a.k.a. Barry Soetoro) and his PROPAGANDA about guns . Also :
32 posted on 02/16/2018 10:10:04 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Brian Griffin

> For wood shop, junior might spend 9th grade in school A.
For biology lab, junior might spend 10th grade in school B. <

Now that’s a good idea!


33 posted on 02/16/2018 10:10:24 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: raiderboy

If you can’t block the weapons, remove the targets, arm teachers
there fixed it

Teachers were originally armed in this country but then we forgot all about it.

viz.
In 1800:
“Children of the present day would be somewhat startled to go to school attended by large dogs, to keep off the bears and other wild animals, to study all day by the crackle of the great fire and back logs, to hear the howling of wolves at rollcall, and see the teacher take from its resting place over the door, a trusty rifle to guard the way home. Such were the first schools in 1800.”
‘Periwinkle’, “The Sentinel”, Feb 21, 1874 [”Ticonderoga Sentinel”, Ticonderoga, NY]


34 posted on 02/16/2018 10:10:49 AM PST by bunkerhill7 ((((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")))))))
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To: asinclair

There is always the possibility of putting National Guard militia persons on school duty.


35 posted on 02/16/2018 10:12:19 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: asinclair

Home schooling with the internet is a safe and great way for children to get HS Diplomas and even pass lower grades.

One of our adult children’s best friend and his wife, this past September pulled their 3 younger kids out of Jr High and High school. They computer commute to school everyday.

They converted an office room into a study room with computers, a wireless printer and the ability to post a computer screen on a large screen tv monitor on the wall.
They have exercise bikes and mats in the office.

The parents are health care professionals and spread their daily time with random and scheduled visits to the computer room.

He is a walker, and he and the kids walk and have lunch together. She is a runner, and she and the kids run on the other days before lunch and then have lunch together.

The kids have adapted very well and are acing their courses.


36 posted on 02/16/2018 10:13:49 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive of 64+ million Trump Deplorables. You will lose!)
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To: asinclair

I suggest metal doors with locks and desks that have bulletproof metal tops.

Kids could also be trained in defensive tactics, such as book tossing.


37 posted on 02/16/2018 10:14:45 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: robroys woman

>>Yep. I have to confess that I used to like Elizabeth “Pocahontas” Warren because my first exposure to her was a youtube video where she talks about the “myth” of the two income household. <<

I have GOT TO find that one. Will check later when I have a few google minutes.

Thanks


38 posted on 02/16/2018 10:18:18 AM PST by freedumb2003 (obozo took 8 years to try to destroy us. Trump took 1 to rebuild us. MAGA!!)
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To: freedumb2003

This should get you started:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GHg3GAeQ1Y


39 posted on 02/16/2018 10:20:45 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: petro45acp

Yesterdays` school wolves had 4 legs, today they got 2.
cf #34,
‘ large dogs” should also be in schools- ‘
kids go to “school attended by large dogs, to keep off the bears and other wild animals” ...”howling of wolves at rollcall...”

If cops can have K-9`s to fight domestic wolves, kids can have K -thru 12 canine protectors against a school lone wolf.


40 posted on 02/16/2018 10:21:15 AM PST by bunkerhill7 ((((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")))))))
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