Posted on 02/16/2018 8:57:57 AM PST by asinclair
Roger that:
Focus on the problem:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/pass-protect-our-schoolchildren-act
Violence against schools can be reduced by hardening the targets. Using a combination of armed security, physical barriers and allowing teachers to conceal carry will make schools a hard target for armed terrorists.
The existence of security alone will act as a deterrent.
Think outside the box: using undercover random ‘school marshals’ like air marshals for schools would add to deterrent effect.
My post from another thread (former school board chair )
In todays world why are these schools not locked down? Our schools here are. No one in or out without authorization. You must be buzzed in. This individual was a known problem, was not attending, and was only restricted if he had a back pack? Administration dropped the ball big time here and people payed with their lives. Gross negligence.
Anyone who doesn't beleive that need only pick up some of the text books and exams which they used.
There would be a whole lot fewer Nick Cruz types produced if we went back (or more correctly, forward) to decentralized schooling.
In the 70s, several Israeli schools were attacked, most notably, Ma’alot. After the expected military response, schools were individually defended by family members. These “uncle Moshe” and “grandma Ruth” types coordinated among themselves to schedule watches over students. These family members were armed, and at that time, it would be hard to swing a dead chatul (cat) without hitting a pensioner who was blooded in combat.
The next attacks on schools failed because people were willing to defend their children.
If not for these chelev ruim (sheep dogs), attacks might have increased.
If they are worth loving and protecting, they are worth using force to do so. One can get “Left of Bang” with observation, planning, and knowledge, but if bang happens, rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
.02 YMMV
KYPD
Like that line of thinking!!!
KYPD
Or just wait for the news cycle to change and hope it doesnt happen to you?
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Bingo.
Every day 3,300 people are killed in car wrecks here in the US. Like everyone, we hope it doesn’t happen to us.
Same with school shootings. The odds are way to small to calculate that your child or mine will be killed in a school shooting, so the left rails against the right, and vice-versa, and in a few days - life goes on.
> “Putting home-schooling aside for the moment, decentralizing schools would be way too inefficient, and too expensive.” <
Okay, then I will provide an example. Consider a large school that has, say, 800 students. That school probably has one fully-equipped chemistry lab. Students who signed up for chemistry will rotate through that lab in the course of the day.
Now let’s decentralize that school. Turn it into four mini-schools of 200 students each. Do you build a fully-equipped chemistry lab in each school, especially since there are now less chemistry students?
Repeat that argument with biology labs, wood shop, etc.
As a side note, I am in general in favor of smaller schools. They are just better for the kids overall. But they are not cost-efficient. That’s why we have large schools in the first place.
By all measures...Sandy hook was a small school.
Spreading the targets out doesn’t eliminate the risk, it means its easier to find a flaw in the security.
There are a lot of “disabled” former law enforcement officers in their 50s.
Congress has the power to raise “armies” as necessary.
Sheesh, if I have to read one more post about a sad mommy looking longingly at her precious little ones as they get on the bus again...
Are they precious or not?!?!? Keep them home. Or go to the school board and get an update on what their new security plans entail. After all that’s happened, they must have a plan, right?
“Now lets decentralize that school. Turn it into four mini-schools of 200 students each. Do you build a fully-equipped chemistry lab in each school, especially since there are now less chemistry students?”
“Repeat that argument with biology labs, wood shop, etc.”
The UK spent a lot of money for chemistry lab waste disposal.
For wood shop, junior might spend 9th grade in school A.
For biology lab, junior might spend 10th grade in school B.
> For wood shop, junior might spend 9th grade in school A.
For biology lab, junior might spend 10th grade in school B. <
Now that’s a good idea!
If you can’t block the weapons, remove the targets, arm teachers
there fixed it
Teachers were originally armed in this country but then we forgot all about it.
viz.
In 1800:
Children of the present day would be somewhat startled to go to school attended by large dogs, to keep off the bears and other wild animals, to study all day by the crackle of the great fire and back logs, to hear the howling of wolves at rollcall, and see the teacher take from its resting place over the door, a trusty rifle to guard the way home. Such were the first schools in 1800.
Periwinkle, The Sentinel, Feb 21, 1874 [Ticonderoga Sentinel, Ticonderoga, NY]
There is always the possibility of putting National Guard militia persons on school duty.
Home schooling with the internet is a safe and great way for children to get HS Diplomas and even pass lower grades.
One of our adult children’s best friend and his wife, this past September pulled their 3 younger kids out of Jr High and High school. They computer commute to school everyday.
They converted an office room into a study room with computers, a wireless printer and the ability to post a computer screen on a large screen tv monitor on the wall.
They have exercise bikes and mats in the office.
The parents are health care professionals and spread their daily time with random and scheduled visits to the computer room.
He is a walker, and he and the kids walk and have lunch together. She is a runner, and she and the kids run on the other days before lunch and then have lunch together.
The kids have adapted very well and are acing their courses.
I suggest metal doors with locks and desks that have bulletproof metal tops.
Kids could also be trained in defensive tactics, such as book tossing.
>>Yep. I have to confess that I used to like Elizabeth Pocahontas Warren because my first exposure to her was a youtube video where she talks about the myth of the two income household. <<
I have GOT TO find that one. Will check later when I have a few google minutes.
Thanks
This should get you started:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GHg3GAeQ1Y
Yesterdays` school wolves had 4 legs, today they got 2.
cf #34,
‘ large dogs” should also be in schools- ‘
kids go to “school attended by large dogs, to keep off the bears and other wild animals” ...”howling of wolves at rollcall...”
If cops can have K-9`s to fight domestic wolves, kids can have K -thru 12 canine protectors against a school lone wolf.
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