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If you can't block the weapons, remove the targets

Posted on 02/16/2018 8:57:57 AM PST by asinclair

I'll keep this short: if you want to eliminate the shootings in schools, and don't want to impose draconian limits on the sale and possession of firearms, then decentralize the schools. This reduces the target density, plus it allows our children to be protected by adults with guns against the perps looking for their 15 minutes of glory.


TOPICS: Education; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: guncontrol; homeschool
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1 posted on 02/16/2018 8:57:57 AM PST by asinclair
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To: asinclair

I’ve said for many years that, thanks to the internet, online home school curriculum and sites like MIT and Khanacademy.com, public schools have become a 19th century paradigm that outlived its usefulness in the early 21st century.

The problem is that it is an important form of day care for parents that have to both work to support their life style nowadays. Return to the single income family and two parent families and public schools are fairly pointless, other than for the occasional turkey shoot - and brainwashing the next generation that does survive.


2 posted on 02/16/2018 9:00:53 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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I'm talking about home schooling. This fixes a few problems: Home schooling doesn't have to be a grind, there is nothing preventing a neighborhood from consolidating their children into a small group, moving from home to home for their education. Moreover, such a cooperative arrangement increases the growth of social skills without the bullying that the extreme clustering we have today fosters.
3 posted on 02/16/2018 9:02:19 AM PST by asinclair (Political hot air is a renewable energy resource)
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I’ve been turning this around on dumbocrats...

We protect BANKS more than we protect SCHOOLS.

Why isn’t government ALREADY protecting our schools?

It would cost considerably less and would avoid having to take guns away from millions of people who didn’t do anything wrong, while the criminals would STILL have them - and STILL be able to go to schools and kill(now unafraid of any guns.)


4 posted on 02/16/2018 9:05:45 AM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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Putting home-schooling aside for the moment, decentralizing schools would be way too inefficient, and too expensive.

The only solution is to strategically place armed guards in the schools. And search bags, etc. at the doorway.

I don’t see why liberals get so worked up about that idea. Airports do it. My county courthouse does it.


5 posted on 02/16/2018 9:06:03 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: asinclair

FUHGETAHBOUTIT


6 posted on 02/16/2018 9:07:25 AM PST by CGASMIA68
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This kid should have been blockaded somehow. He should have NEVER left the building.

You need cameras in the halls and a monitor and a loud speaker system. Such an easy partial fix. Put a buzzer in each classroom to goes directly to the monitor....who can give immediate instructions.

Another thought....access via some kind of card or fingerprint or whatever system. Everyone else has to be monitored before entry.

It's about denying someone access....as far as the internal school shootings.

But then there's the Congressman who was shot at a baseball practice.

7 posted on 02/16/2018 9:08:39 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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We homeschool.

And I assure you that if anyone tries to hurt our children then they will end up being fed to our hogs.

Period.


8 posted on 02/16/2018 9:08:48 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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Thing is they could have blocked this squirrel from getting a gun. Police had been called to the house 36 times before the actual shooting. Wouldn’t it have made sense to block him in the Federal registry you need to go through to buy weapons?
Another failure of the enforcement system that more laws won’t touch.


9 posted on 02/16/2018 9:09:44 AM PST by Hartlyboy
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To: robroys woman

>>The problem is that it is an important form of day care for parents that have to both work to support their life style nowadays. Return to the single income family and two parent families and public schools are fairly pointless, other than for the occasional turkey shoot - and brainwashing the next generation that does survive.<<

There have been a number of studies over the years that show that the incremental costs of a second career pretty much wipes out the income from that career.

This is all about women not wanting to bring up their own kids but just outsourcing it.


10 posted on 02/16/2018 9:12:37 AM PST by freedumb2003 (obozo took 8 years to try to destroy us. Trump took 1 to rebuild us. MAGA!!)
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No amount of decentralization (whatever that means), no amount of home schooling, no amount of gun grabbing, no amount of ANYTHING will solve the problems of school shootings until we as a nation return to our senses.

What exactly do I mean “return to our senses”? I leave that interpretation up to you.

As for me, I’d be happy with another Great Awakening occurring in America.


11 posted on 02/16/2018 9:12:39 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Vote for Responsibility2nd for Mayor of Boston)
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Arm and train teacher coach volunteers.So easy. Why is this not being talked about? Force this option in your school district. It is heavily adopted all over the Midwest and south. The cost is nothing. In Texas the Teacher provides the weapon of choice, is provided free range time and training from local PD and Sheriff. What is there to lose?


12 posted on 02/16/2018 9:14:51 AM PST by raiderboy ( "...if we have to close down our government, weÂ’re building that wall" DJTwe hav)
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To: asinclair
A couple of these at each school and we never see a shooting again.


13 posted on 02/16/2018 9:17:26 AM PST by The Iceman Cometh (Donald J Trump 45th President of the United States !MAGA)
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To: Hartlyboy

You would not even need armed guards. Make a gun restricted zone, allowing teachers with CC to actually carry. Just the potential that someone will shoot back will make these go away.

Of course the mental health aspects need to be addressed. It should not be hard to develop shelter in place vs evacuate protocols. If there was a real fire, every kid with a cell phone would know about it faster than any system the school could ever put in place.


14 posted on 02/16/2018 9:17:33 AM PST by PSUGOP
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1. What do you want to do about the parents who can’t home school? I don’t mean parents who both work, I mean parents without the aptitude, knowledge, etc. to home school.

2. If you can get enough parents to home school to have an effect on society, seems like you could get enough parents together to take back the education system.

3. If you can only get a minimal number of parents to home school, what about the rest of the children? What kind of society will they make in which your children will live?


15 posted on 02/16/2018 9:17:45 AM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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Black children are murdered in the Chicago streets with little fanfare from the MSM. They run the gauntlet in school, on the way to school, and after school everyday. There is no “fix” for this, but the only thing that penetrates the mind of a killer is the possibility of return fire and actual return fire. Return fire, regardless of its actual efficacy, forces the perp to pay attention to something other than his plan. These precious moments allow the first responders to arrive with fewer deaths and injuries to deal with.

ARM AT LEAST ONE TEACHER IN EVERY SCHOOL IN AMERICA, AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE KNOWS THIS IS THE NEW PARADIGM.


16 posted on 02/16/2018 9:17:55 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw
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To: Responsibility2nd

These people don’t really want to DO anything. There was much wailing and gnashing of teeth after Sandy Hook. Aside from Sandy Hook itself, my question to all the parents who claimed that such a massacre really affected their worldview was: what are you going to do about it? Knowing what you now know, are you going to just send your kid back into the same situation you sent him yesterday? Will you consider home schooling? Or is that inconvenient to your lifestyle? Are you going to follow up with any changes to your school’s preparedness? Going to hold your local school administration accountable for anything? Anything? Or just wait for the news cycle to change and hope it doesn’t happen to you? According to their actions, I think that sometimes they’d rather be victims.


17 posted on 02/16/2018 9:17:58 AM PST by Dr. Pritchett
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To: Leaning Right
"Putting home-schooling aside for the moment, decentralizing schools would be way too inefficient, and too expensive."

Not the most ridiculous statement Ive ever seen on FR but a good try.

18 posted on 02/16/2018 9:17:59 AM PST by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: freedumb2003

There have been a number of studies over the years that show that the incremental costs of a second career pretty much wipes out the income from that career.

This is all about women not wanting to bring up their own kids but just outsourcing it.


Yep. I have to confess that I used to like Elizabeth “Pocahontas” Warren because my first exposure to her was a youtube video where she talks about the “myth” of the two income household. It really did shoot it down. What you give up in relationships is way more valuable than what actual after taxes and expenses income you reap - unless the second income is a very high paying job.


19 posted on 02/16/2018 9:19:34 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: asinclair

If the schools are not going or cannot provide protection for the students, then they need to go.

No way would I send my child off to be a fish in a barrel for some disaffected loser.


20 posted on 02/16/2018 9:20:06 AM PST by chris37 (Take a week off racist >;-)
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