Posted on 02/08/2018 2:12:16 PM PST by CincyRichieRich
I'm an investor, and like most here, overwhelmed with the sources to read, the Q Anon stuff, the stimuli, the conspiracies...and now, a few days of stock market drops - including today's 1000 pt drop. I'd like to discuss with anyone who will participate, as to causes, where from here, etc.
Everyone knows that markets reflect confidence and uncertainty causes market disruption.
My theory is that Trump and his team have intentionally been slow-walking the release of information because if he went on national TV and laid out the full extent of corruption in government, stock prices would fall so fast it would make Black Friday look like a bear. Yet the information IS going to come out, it has to, so they’re testing with controlled releases to gradually condition people (including investors). What we saw since last Friday is proof of market resilience. That will be important moving forward, because this cannot be a bump-free ride. But if confidence is not lost, the bumps will be smoothed out over time.
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Good points
Just to take one stock, Netflix, was trading at about $120 a share at the end of 2016, after Trump was elected. Now, after a disaster week in the stock market, Netflix is at the bottom, at $250 a share. Boy, Trump has tanked the market.
People are not heeding the words of Gordon Gekko:
“The public’s out there throwing darts at a board, sport. I don’t throw darts at a board – I bet on sure things.”
Gordon cheated with inside information, but he is right about the dart throwing. The little guys in the stock market should probably stick with the tried and true since the big guys can make the market go up and down all the time. For example, I bought some Chevron stock when price dropped this week. I am confident that Chevron is a sound company and its share price will increase over time.
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Good points; thanks; there are no such things as sure things...even sure things dropped today. :)
And none of those notes are selling any more. Not the 3 years, not the 10 years.
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And that is in fact something NO ONE is talking about but is an iceberg with as small chip of ice exposed above the surface.
HNA Says Debt Scrutiny is an Anti-Chinese Plot and More Asia Real Estate Headlines
https://www.mingtiandi.com/real-estate/crelist/hna-says-debt-scrutiny-is-an-anti-chinese-plot-and-more-asia-real-estate-headlines/
When China finally blows up financially, it will be interesting to see whether Chinese companies sell their overseas holdings. Because Japanese companies certainly sold their foreign assets, which turned out to be a big mistake - they should have sold their Japanese holdings and basically expatriated, because those foreign assets have kept their value much better than the Japanese ones. Mitsubishi Estate sold Rockefeller Center for peanuts in the 90’s. That stake is probably worth 10x today, where commercial Tokyo real estate bottomed with a 90% loss.
“Stocks were overbought
Soros is attacking the markets to punish Trump”
Maybe it’s not being done to punish Trump, but to make the market the Big Story instead of FISA, etc. We’re coming close to the time when the MSM will have no choice but to report what’s going on, and a negative financial outlook will draw attention away from FBI, DOJ, State.
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WOWWIE! Yep, great point!!!! A red herring...
I usually think of things like this, but you beat me to it.
Great work!!!
This is stupid over leveraged Hedge Funds freaking out about the jobs report which fed the Higher interest rates fears on there massive loans .
There computerized buy sell systems are set up for chaos .
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You sir, are on the mark!
This is stupid over leveraged Hedge Funds freaking out about the jobs report which fed the Higher interest rates fears on there massive loans .
Cincy, am I to infer from your post that your handle is no longer valid?
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Touche!
Love it!!!
When I was a kid in the 1970’s, I had about 200 Richie Rich comic books; so that is the impetus...I have made so many mistakes on 401ks, turning one of them into a 201k...
I took a hit today, but it is because, USB, X, SERV, CARA, and many others took a hit...
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Right on!
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“Deep State is truly working with the Soroses, Rothchild types and will continue to wreak havoc around Trump’s tax cut timing...I see this continuing for a while.”
As a stock market investor since the early 1970s, I have suspected since last week when the market first began this rapid decline that the one item you posted (shown above) could well be what is happening. Soros and his cohorts would like nothing better than to make Trump look bad by ordinary folks being subjected to drops in their portfolios. Also, it would take attention away from the scandals now coming out which will likely have a huge negative impact on the Dem party.
While some may think the above is absurd, I want to remind folks that quite a few years ago, Soros single handedly almost destroyed the British Pound.
Possible
The New Fed Reserve Guy needs to come out of hiding and calm markets .
Where is he ??
Occam’s razor:
1-—The Dow went up 8000 points last year without any significant correction, that’s never happened before. We were due for a correction.
2-—The Fed raised interest rates 3 times in one year, which makes bonds seem more attractive and secure than stocks.
3-—Congress (@holes as usual) is going to be doing some massive deficit spending, and the government is going to flood the market with government bonds—and the bonds will seem safer and more secure than the stock market.
4-—Cramer is partially right about panicking new stock market investors. They held back last year and then finally jumped in late in the year because it seemed nothing would stop the market from roaring ahead. Then the correction started to kick in and a lot of them are in full panic mode. My brother in law is this kind of investor. He thinks he can time the market and he always buys high and sells low LOL.
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The New Fed Reserve Guy needs to come out of hiding and calm markets .
Where is he ??
Good news means higher interest rates .
These Hedge Funds owe billions in loans .
The New Fed Head needs to be Seen and heard from ..
The Dive is timed with Janet Y leaving on Friday and the
uncertainity of a new Head .
She threw a hand-grenade on the way out .
But the new head could stop Hiding.
Probably hiding under his bed.
Is the uncertainty fed by him hiding.?
Let him just appear and be confident .
First off, Cramer basically ran a boiler room operation a couple decades ago. The guy is a crook and it amazes me he has a show on Bloomberg.
That is what it looks like .
Not Good .
He has to undo the damage that Janet Y comment did .
Its just PR .
Everything took a hit today. Don’t sweat it. Just hang in there and don’t panic and sell at a low point. They’ll come back.
I rode the 08 crash all the way done and all the way back up. Glad I didn’t panic. Just make sure you don’t have all your eggs in one basket.
Good luck.
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