Posted on 01/26/2018 10:04:43 AM PST by Brian Griffin
Changing the laws to benefit those breaking them is always bad policy.
No mention of H1-B visas, or did I miss that?
Way too complicated.
Just end all immigration for the next 40 years.
We have had so much in the last 40 years that it will probably take twice that to assimilate them. If ever, since it’s been overwhelmingly Mexican “immigrants”...translation: colonizers.
And the only Constitutional Amendment that would help: no birthright citizenship for the children of illegals. It doesn’t need to be an Amendment, but laws are easy to change, so it would help if it WAS an Amendment.
No “guest worker” programs. Ever. They are back doors. Nothing so permanent as a temporary worker.
For a relative newbie on FR, you certainly have an appetite for bandwidth. You lost me at the second paragraph. And my finger fell asleep holding down the scroll button to get to the bottom of your construct. I think DJT would have a similar reaction. So I’m not sure FR is the best place for you to audition for a job with the federal government.
Everyone needs to take a deep breath and relax. There will never be DACA amnesty
Brian Griffin:
“It will be a matter of law within two to three weeks.
Trump is the only person of substance in DC who would fight for our future and he has agreed to go along with the scofflaw-loving Swamp creatures.”
Lurk more or get bent noob.
Quit hangin’ out with Linda Grahamnesty. Quit surrendering to the demonic swampocrats.
Just a general immigration comment:
I hate it when we are told “We are a nation of immigrants.”
Yes, that is true. For the most part.
What I also dread saying is that immigration is essential for the country to remain strong. And not just smart coders or engineers immigrants. We need the entire spectrum.
The baby boom is leaving the work force. The Gen X family is, demographically, a lot different than the boomers. There are a lot fewer of them, many more are childless, and even more only have one or two offspring.
The Millennials are putting off starting families for years.
Altogether, we are facing a demographic cliff. This means that not only will we be in need of engineers—we are going to need adult elder care personnel as well. The people doing this stuff now are retiring and/or leaving the workforce.
The US is about twenty years behind Japan in this aspect—and the economic impact is going to be huge.
So...the only way to maintain the economic lead is to build up our working population by a huge number. Sure, people are living longer—and that is simply going to stress the system more.
AI and Robotics will help. A lot. But they are not going to push our wheelchairs around.
BG’s a nattering Share Blue nabob of negativism I’m guessing.
Anyway, that’s the spirit Brian! Keep plugging away for your pittance.
“Changing the laws to benefit those breaking them is always bad policy.”
Yes, but have no doubt it will be the policy.
Only Trump can say no and block an amnesty, but yesterday he said yes and sweetened the pot with a 120% increase in numbers and a “path to citizenship” too.
Agree:
1. The proposal in this thread is far too complicated.
2. End the current immigration process
3. Replace it with a merit based immigration policy
We need skilled workers with qualifications already or the ability to meet qualifications. We have a demographic cliff that is essentially here right now. What I would not give to be a millennial. There are more jobs and opportunities for them than there are numbers of them.
If I could hire good workers, train them and retain them in certain trades and wanted to work hard enough to manage them I’d make a fortune.
What we don’t need are a bunch is leeches that can’t leave the old country behind.
He offered them the best deal they were ever going to get and they said no, just as he expected.
We also have a boat load of able-bodied Welfare recipients that could pick beans and tomatoes.
“we are going to need adult elder care personnel”
Millions of Americans support their elder relatives.
Just because no money changes hands and no FICA tax is paid doesn’t mean the work isn’t being done.
I took care of my aunt and I’ll be there for my uncle.
In Florida, couples take in an elderly person and pay their bills and put some money away to boot.
“We also have a boat load of able-bodied Welfare recipients that could pick beans and tomatoes.”
Farmers need reliable help. A crop can go bad in two days.
In my youth the local farmer drove to Albany and got some people wishing to have a bottle of whisky that night and the next two to pick his tomatoes.
“Way too complicated.”
Much of it (~50%) is exactly or pretty much in the two major bills, Goodlatte’s and the Dream Act.
“And the only Constitutional Amendment that would help: no birthright citizenship for the children of illegals. It doesnt need to be an Amendment”
Yes, it does need to be an Amendment.
The language of SECTION 1 is perfectly clear on its face.
I also believe the US governments pays for the births of the illegal moms, so obviously it has the jurisdiction required.
The 1987 Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act passed after the 1986 Reagan amnesty establishes clear federal jurisdiction over the US births of illegal foreign moms.
The jurisdiction would exist even if all the federal laws exercising jurisdiction were repealed.
Anything short of deportation for all illegal alien dacacas and their illegal alien parents is a slap in the face for IMMIGRANTS...
Could have saved you/rest some time/bandwidth:
#1 - Enforce the EXISTING Laws
#2 - Terminate any/all welfare
#3 - Prosecute any/all lawbreak(ing|ers) and those enabling/abetting.
#4 - Read, defend, uphold the plain English reading of the 14th.
No eVerify (no authority), wall can wait for the ‘fall-out’ of the above.
W/o #1, more lawyer-speak is just useless mumbo-jumbo
Check out his FR page.
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