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Wealthy exodus to escape new tax rules worries California Democrats
Sacramento Bee ^ | 1/18/2018 | ADAM ASHTON

Posted on 01/18/2018 6:35:38 PM PST by Beave Meister

The Republican-backed federal tax bill flipped the tables on a never-ending question for California politicians: Will high taxes lead the state’s wealthiest residents to flee the Golden State for the comparable tax havens of Florida, Nevada and Texas?

Republicans reliably raise that alarm when Democrats advocate for tax increases, like the 2012 and 2016 ballot initiatives that levied a new income tax on very high-earning residents.

But now, with the federal tax bill cutting off deductions that benefited well-off Californians, the state’s Democrats suddenly are singing the GOP song about a potential millionaire exodus.

“People with higher incomes pay a lot more money, and some of them may be tempted to leave,” Gov. Jerry Brown said when he unveiled his 2018-19 budget proposal last week. “This was an assault by the Republicans in Congress against California.”

That fear animates Senate President pro tem Kevin de León’s bill that would allow California residents to write off their state taxes on their federal returns as a charitable deduction, as well as other proposals that Assembly leaders have hinted they’re preparing to offer. De Leon’s bill cleared a second committee this week and is on its way to a vote on the Senate floor. Trump administration officials say it won’t pass muster with the IRS.

Democratic state lawmakers are worried because California relies so heavily on the income taxes it collects from high earners to fund government services. The state’s wealthiest 1 percent, for instance, pay 48 percent of its income tax, and the departure of just a few families could lead to a noticeable hit to state general fund revenue.

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To: Beave Meister

I see a whole lot of Silicon Valley Millionaires and Billionaires moving to Reno Nevada.

You know, the uber Liberal ones.


41 posted on 01/18/2018 7:49:08 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on about Deportation, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Shithole".)
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To: Beave Meister

Hey, somebody has to make Illinois look good until I’m gone from here in 18 months!


42 posted on 01/18/2018 8:15:23 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Honk If You've Been Sexually Assaulted By Harvey Weinstein.)
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To: Beave Meister

I woudn’t be surprised if California passed a law forbiding anyone earning over a certain income from moving away under penalty of asset forfeiture. The ninth circuit would find it constitutional.


43 posted on 01/18/2018 8:29:08 PM PST by Clarancebeaks
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To: american_ranger

Also, at all outgoing border highways, they need to set up booths where tax agents stop all people leaving permanently so they can pick them up and hold them upside down so they can shake all of the money out of their pockets before letting them continue on their journey ...


44 posted on 01/18/2018 8:41:21 PM PST by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Beave Meister

Democrats advocating for the wealthy. Will wonders never cease.


45 posted on 01/18/2018 8:44:01 PM PST by headstamp 2 (My "White Privilege" is my work ethic.)
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To: seawolf101
"....Gee what can go wrong...."

What went wrong is that the liberals have ruined my home state of California.

I haven't been back in over forty years because it's become such a sh*thole.

46 posted on 01/18/2018 9:03:04 PM PST by HotHunt
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To: Secret Agent Man

“They like to slow boil the frog so it doesnt hop out of the pot.”


The “slow boil frog” is just a nonsensical legend popularised by such science ignoramus as manbearpig Al Gore. But in line with Goebbels schemes, it’s a lie repeated often enough that it has become truth. All it says that frogs are more realists than leftists.


47 posted on 01/19/2018 2:29:49 AM PST by miniTAX
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To: Beave Meister

“Wealthy exodus to escape new tax rules worries California Democrats”

That’s one good reason why the liberal elites are so much for migrants, they are preparing to be (tax) migrants themselves.


48 posted on 01/19/2018 2:36:34 AM PST by miniTAX
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To: Reno89519
Gas is hire in reno

Wnat brand of phone are you posting with?

49 posted on 01/19/2018 2:43:35 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

iPhone 7


50 posted on 01/19/2018 3:14:52 AM PST by Reno89519 (PRESIDENT TRUMP, KEEP YOUR PROMISES! NO AMNESTY AND BUILD THAT WALL.)
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To: Reno89519

I figured as much.

My Samsung Android knows higher from hire.


51 posted on 01/19/2018 3:21:12 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: RightGeek
If the charitable contribution is mandatory, it is not a charitable contribution. If it is not mandatory, very few people (even in CA) will do it.

The obvious trick would be to make the state income tax a payroll tax, like the employer portion of Social Security. That way, your W2 income would come already state-tax deducted. So, you could put the entire $10k federal SALT deduction towards your Prop 13 property taxes.

Or maybe you could just move to Nevada.

52 posted on 01/19/2018 3:42:24 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: Beave Meister

“would allow California residents to write off their state taxes on their federal returns as a charitable deduction,”

Charity doesn’t happen when there’s a tax collector pointing a gun at you.

L


53 posted on 01/19/2018 3:48:37 AM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: Lurker

The dems have lost their minds. They own their taxes and the fed owns theirs.

It is as simple as that.

Make it charitable and now it is voluntary.

Democrats need to be Patriotic and pay up! Right?

Idiots


54 posted on 01/19/2018 4:04:04 AM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: Beave Meister

Something I don’t understand. The Dems and liberals always preach about making the rich pay more taxes. Now that the rich are paying more, because their SALT deduction is limited, the Dems and liberals are all shouting unfair!


55 posted on 01/19/2018 5:59:27 AM PST by ops33 (SMSgt, USAF, Retired)
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To: Beave Meister
"People with higher incomes pay a lot more money, and some of them may be tempted to leave," Gov. Jerry Brown said...No shit Captain Obvious??? What a damn idiot!!! "What will I be when I grow up?"
56 posted on 01/19/2018 7:53:54 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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