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Spectre Wreaks Havoc As iPhone 6 Performance Drops By 40% In Both Single And Multi-Core Benchmarks
wccftech.com ^ | Jan 13, 2018 | Ramish Zafar

Posted on 01/13/2018 12:07:05 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Ah, speculative execution. Man’s ever needing desire to get more done in less time resulted in a similar design for microprocessors. With the third wave maturing and on the brink of fading, speed is all that matters today. Information is available in the blink of an eye and requires similar speeds for decision making. Hesitate, and you’re done for. However, in the microprocessor case, this didn’t serve us too well. Speculative Execution on microprocessor didn’t account for what would happen should past usage trends not materialize. When we talk about every day processes, such as reading the news, this matters less. But move to sensitive processes and the problem is obvious. Now, we’ve got more on the Spectre and Meltdown patches w.r.t the iPhone 6 and it isn’t good.

Apple iPhone 6 Benchmarked Before And After Spectre Patch; Shows Massive Drops In Single And Multi Core Performance


(Excerpt) Read more at wccftech.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: apple; google; iphones; spectre; spectrepatch
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

No. Apparently you have not kept up with what is going on with these two potential problems. ALL Intelchips (and that includes your Samsung stuff) plus All AMD chips are effected

Apple is the only company that has produced s patch


21 posted on 01/13/2018 12:54:13 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the cloudso)
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To: Blue Highway

This is not Apple’s fault.The problem is with the ARM processors, and this affects the Android devices also, as these use ARM, too.


22 posted on 01/13/2018 12:56:25 PM PST by bkopto
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To: Nifster

Intel has patches out and working with Servers/OS. Very complicated exploit that NSA has been enjoying for years though, because of unlimited resources.


23 posted on 01/13/2018 12:59:51 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Chode
-- if you run a virtual machine, are you basically immune to these types of attacks? --

No.

24 posted on 01/13/2018 1:09:43 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: rollo tomasi

True that


25 posted on 01/13/2018 1:14:35 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the cloudso)
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To: Cboldt

thx


26 posted on 01/13/2018 1:34:50 PM PST by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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To: Chode

Nope VMs are subject to cross contamination. More later, I am on the road.


27 posted on 01/13/2018 1:59:05 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: Blue Highway

So much for Apple “iAnything” being invincable. Must be a sad day for you to realize you’ve been fooled by the hucksters @ Apple all of these years.

This is a processor level issue turning off predictive instruction execution. It is not specific to any OS platform.


28 posted on 01/13/2018 2:12:49 PM PST by Flick Lives (https://goo.gl/GxGKQh)
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To: Blue Highway

Most major processors are susceptible to this extremely creative exploit. It’s not an Apple thing, it’s a state-of-the-art vulnerability.


29 posted on 01/13/2018 2:40:43 PM PST by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: ctdonath2

Either way Apple disciples can no longer say their “iProducts” are immune to any virus or threats no matter if it is OS derived or hardware specific. I remember Apple drones proudly proclaiming this for years back when Apple represented less than 1% of the market.


30 posted on 01/13/2018 2:43:29 PM PST by Blue Highway
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To: Blue Highway
So much for Apple “iAnything” being invincable. Must be a sad day for you to realize you’ve been fooled by the hucksters @ Apple all of these year

We’ve never said that iPhones were not invulnerable to Spectre. That’s you and the other Anti-Apple Hate mongers putting words in our mouths we never said, as usual.

The idiot did the test, both before and after, if he truly did it at all, with a DEPLETED BATTERY, dumkopf! He posted this on several other sites and has been shot down, debunked, on every single site.

Read the user comments on your linked site where multiple users could not replicate his results and you’d find he was roundly criticized both there, same thing when put his claims on Anandrech and BGR, and on Reddit where he’d originally posted the same bogus claims six days before. Others who did similar tests using replaced batteries have not been able to replicate his results.

In fact, Blue, NO ONE CAN REPLICATE HIS CLAIMED RESULTS EVEN WITH A DEPLETED BATTERY. This is a FUD campaign by one person which is being shot down every time he posts it, and you, like all anti-Apple hate mongers who will believe anything nagative you find about Apple, reposted it.

31 posted on 01/13/2018 3:16:23 PM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you racist, bigot!)
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To: mrsmith
“maybe they want to sell new chips.”

LOL! I remember my first Microsoft PC back in 1995. From the moment I flipped the power switch to on Windows would start, I would launch MS Word, and start typing in less than one minute on a 64 MB hard drive. Don't even ask me what chip was in it.

Bad programming wastes so much computing power that it is nearly unbelievable.

Check out this gem: https://www.howtogeek.com/171945/why-do-old-game-run-way-too-fast-on-modern-computers/

32 posted on 01/13/2018 3:23:50 PM PST by WMarshal (John McCain is the turd in America's punch bowl. McLame cannot even fake an injury.)
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To: Chode
question, if you run a virtual machine, are you basically immune to these types of attacks?

Nope. . . It works inside the processor.

33 posted on 01/13/2018 3:26:03 PM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you racist, bigot!)
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To: rollo tomasi
Apple should tell Jana Partners and the California State Teachers Retirement System to piss-off though. Investors will eagerly pick up their shares.

Jana Partners LLC lists their entire holdings online. Guess what’s NOT THERE? AAPL. They are not an investor in Apple and have not been for six months. So how can they complain as stockholders in AAPL? How did the MSM miss something so easy to check?

34 posted on 01/13/2018 3:34:02 PM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you racist, bigot!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Myvtrac fonbe ijs doing just fine...

/troll>

CC


35 posted on 01/13/2018 3:35:13 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (It don't matter if your heart is in the right place, if at the same time your head is up your a$$)
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To: Celtic Conservative

Oh god, its on my phone, now, noooo!

CC


36 posted on 01/13/2018 3:36:05 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (It don't matter if your heart is in the right place, if at the same time your head is up your a$$)
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To: rollo tomasi
Intel has patches out and working with Servers/OS. Very complicated exploit that NSA has been enjoying for years though, because of unlimited resources.

But Intel is warning people to be wary of sudden, random restarts on machines where the patch has been implemented. OOPS!

37 posted on 01/13/2018 3:36:37 PM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you racist, bigot!)
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To: Swordmaker

What are you calling a depleted battery? The same thing Apple was doing until it bit them in the rear when they were going to throttle down older iPhones before it blew up in their face and then having to save face by offering to replace batteries (but still expecting users to have to pay $29 for one which for the mAH is still grossly overpriced compared to Android replacement batteries.


38 posted on 01/13/2018 5:01:02 PM PST by Blue Highway
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To: WMarshal

I go back to the 80’s when “no one needs more than 640k memory”.
Programs had to be tight. Heck few of us had 64k.


39 posted on 01/13/2018 5:23:23 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Blue Highway

Try to keep up, bigot.


40 posted on 01/13/2018 5:59:50 PM PST by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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