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Watch: US Air Force's potential A-10 replacements take to the skies from a dirt runway
ibtimes.co ^ | 1/7/18 | Shubham Sharma

Posted on 01/07/2018 9:31:23 PM PST by Kartographer

In order to test potential A-10 Warthog replacements in rugged conditions, the US Air Force has flown Sierra Nevada A-29 Super Tucano and Hawker Beechcraft AT-6 Wolverine light attack planes from a dirt runway.

The planes took off and landed on the uneven dirt airstrip located in the Melrose Air Force Range training area, a part of Cannon Air Force Base, in New Mexico. The whole event, the takeoff as well as the dusty landing, was captured and shared on YouTube by AiirSource on Wednesday, 3 January.

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: a10; air; airforce; force
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To: neverevergiveup

More A-10s. Lots more.


41 posted on 01/08/2018 2:42:17 AM PST by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: Kartographer

“It’s just a flesh wound.”


42 posted on 01/08/2018 3:44:25 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Psephomancers for Hillary!)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
The Soviet TU-4 was a bolt-for-bolt copy of the B-29, reverse engineered from aircraft damaged over Japan that landed in the Soviet Union during the War.


43 posted on 01/08/2018 3:51:21 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Psephomancers for Hillary!)
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To: Fai Mao
I think the real replacement for the A10 is an unmanned drone controlled by troops on the ground. A drone with a camera, 4 Hellfire missiles, a chain gun and 500lbs of bombs would be cheap to build and easy to deploy

I like the idea of closer partnership between the drone pilot and the forward air controller on the ground with the troops. Give the FAC a virtual reality headset where he can see a 4K panoramic view of the battlefield from the drone cameras, so that he can mark where the good guys and bad guys are, and then let the drone unleash hell on the enemy, both from the drone, and by designating the enemy for weapons launched from other aircraft.

44 posted on 01/08/2018 4:06:58 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big governent is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: Kartographer

What a joke....why not a Piper Cub..Sarc/on


45 posted on 01/08/2018 4:12:09 AM PST by ontap
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

The A-10 is pretty simple technology...it could be replicated in a heartbeat. Politicians however could not steal sufficient amounts!!!


46 posted on 01/08/2018 4:14:18 AM PST by ontap
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To: Kartographer

At least they know it can take off and land.


47 posted on 01/08/2018 4:23:02 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Kartographer

Great photo for those threads that include, “You know your over the target.” quotes.


48 posted on 01/08/2018 4:27:36 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Kartographer

A crop duster with some weapon pods, great..../s


49 posted on 01/08/2018 4:35:16 AM PST by cranked
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To: shanover

Ibelieve there were multiple builders.


50 posted on 01/08/2018 5:06:39 AM PST by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: Kartographer

BFL


51 posted on 01/08/2018 5:06:45 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: Kartographer

If they won’t build new Warthogs, then build a CAS drone with similar capabilities, including the big gun.


52 posted on 01/08/2018 5:12:55 AM PST by yawningotter
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To: 2CAVTrooper

Thank you. The armchair aviators on this forum are insufferable.


53 posted on 01/08/2018 5:40:50 AM PST by paddles ("The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." Tacitus)
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To: rdcbn

Shack!


54 posted on 01/08/2018 5:41:20 AM PST by paddles ("The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." Tacitus)
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To: rdcbn

The dirty little secret is that the AT-6 doesn’t have a U.S. airworthiness certification. The USAF decided in 2013 that there was too much technical risk. The Philippines just turned down the AT-6 in favor of the A-29 for the same reason.


55 posted on 01/08/2018 5:45:05 AM PST by paddles ("The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." Tacitus)
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To: paddles
The A-29 is the lower risk solution of the two aircraft but both are good aircraft , assuming you buy into the concept in the first place. Both are repurposed trainers, and have the limitations that they are not clean sheet combat aircraft.

On the other hand, the AT -6 does have the advantage of already being in the system which is nice from the cost and logistics side, but not so nice if it is an inferior combat aircraft

My personal solution would be an upgraded and re engined version of the OV-10 Bronco for forward deployed , fast response COIN operation

The Bronco was perfect for the COIN mission, battle proven beyond any shadow of a doubt, had short, unimproved field capabilities, a suspension system off a monster truck and much better survivability than either the AT-6 or the A-29.

The Bronco could also transport 6 people or deliver useful load of supplies off the kind of roads and fields we see in Afghanistan and Iraq. It is capable of emergency field evacuation and faster that a helo

The repurposed crop duster is also a surprisingly good option for modern COIN operations

56 posted on 01/08/2018 7:06:19 AM PST by rdcbn
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To: Kartographer

No, this thing will never be a replacement. Just silly.


57 posted on 01/08/2018 7:10:42 AM PST by alarm rider (What's the frequency Kenneth?)
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To: rdcbn

Actually the A-29 (EMB-314) is a clean sheet aircraft. You are mistaking it for the EMB-312 Tucano. The AT-6 is not “in the system” as it does not have an airworthiness certification. The OV-10 did return to combat recently under COMBAT DRAGON 2 and did well but bringing it back into service was deemed impractical.


58 posted on 01/08/2018 7:25:40 AM PST by paddles ("The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." Tacitus)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

“.... but probably 1/500th as costly as developing a new plane from scratch.”

Well, not exactly from scratch since you have the actual planes to look at and all the parts to look at, and all the plans, diagrams, schematics, and on and on, to help you.

Then just add all the latest tech and VOILA! SUCCESS!


59 posted on 01/08/2018 7:43:57 AM PST by faucetman (Ju"st the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: paddles
The A-29 is potentially the best solution .

Hard to say because it's not yet fully operational- which kind of proves your point.

In an ideal world, or even a 1960s world, restarting production on a MKII Bronco would be ideal.

In today's world , starting a new program is just not doable for 200 airframes and the remaining Bronco airframes are at the ends of their fatigue lives and not a good airframe for overhaul.

That pretty much leaves us with the A-29. It's in production and it's a well done aircrafts

It's a little to biased to the CAS side and not enough to the COIN for Afghanistan IMHO, but in reality the USAF is never going operate from anything but smooth runways at a prepared air field in an Afghanistan anyway.

60 posted on 01/08/2018 7:54:59 AM PST by rdcbn
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