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Dean: Nixon might have survived Watergate if there had been Fox News
CNN ^ | 4:28 PM ET, Tue January 2, 2018 | Jennifer Hansler

Posted on 01/02/2018 10:11:04 PM PST by Olog-hai

Although he does not foresee a quick end to the special counsel probe into Russian election meddling and aides to President Donald Trump, former White House counsel John Dean noted that the modern media landscape may prevent it from lasting as long as the Watergate investigation, which he said stretched on for 928 days.

“There’s social media, there’s the internet, the news cycles are faster. I think Watergate would have occurred at a much more accelerated speed than the 928 days it took to go from the arrest at the Watergate to the conviction of (H.R.) Haldeman and (John) Ehrlichman and (John) Mitchell, et al.,” he said during a podcast interview with Politico. Dean, who is a CNN contributor, ultimately cooperated with Senate investigators against President Richard Nixon, but he spent four months in jail in 1974 for his role in the scandal, which started with the attempted bugging of Democratic National Committee headquarters at the Watergate and snowballed to bring down the Nixon presidency.

“I think there’s more likelihood (Nixon) might have survived if there’d been a Fox News,” he added, suggesting that more conservative voices critical of special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation will be beneficial to Trump. […]

Dean also said Trump could be impeached for incompetence even though that is not spelled out in the Constitution. He argued that it depends on one’s perception of what constitutes such an offense, described in the Constitution as “treason, bribery and other high crimes and misdemeanors.” …

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TOPICS: Cheese, Moose, Sister; History; Society; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: algerhiss; dean; fakenews; foxnews; liberalagenda; nixon; speculation; watergate
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To: Olog-hai

Obama would not have survived without CNN and MSNBC.


21 posted on 01/03/2018 3:08:43 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Burn. It. Down.)
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To: Olog-hai

Who?


22 posted on 01/03/2018 3:21:38 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Olog-hai

Actually, it would never have been an issue if Nixon was a Democrat.


23 posted on 01/03/2018 4:01:00 AM PST by stevem
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To: Olog-hai

Yet Dean doesn’t mention Fox once in the article..


24 posted on 01/03/2018 4:11:14 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines (Their side circles the wagons. Our side revs up the bus.)
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To: 21twelve

Listed in Heidi’s black book are Ben Barnes, future DNC chief John White, Sam Dash, Lowell Weicker, Barry Goldwater Sr. & Jr., Fred Fielding, Jeb Magruder, Maurice Stans and many Texas based LBJ hacks who worked with young Bill Clinton in the Texans for McGovern effort in 1972 (besides Barnes and White). I don’t think it is any coincidence that Taylor Branch, who was Clinton’s top aide in the 1972 Texans for McGovern effort, would later ghost-write John Dean’s book Blind Ambition.

Another strange item. Ida “Maxie” Wells, the DNC secretary who was frequently overheard on the tapped phone of Spencer Oliver become a “traveling secretary” for future president Jimmy Carter in 1974. Wells joined the White House with Carter in 1977.

In early 1972 in the months before Watergate, Governor Jimmy Carter visited Washington at least twice. Once for a winter governor’s conference and a few weeks later for an environmental symposium. The Heidi Rikan call-girl ring specialized in serving out of town visitors.

Bill Clinton was an adjunct professor at New Haven College (later University of New Haven) along with Alfred Baldwin, the man hired by CIA operative James McCord to monitor the bugged phone of Spencer Oliver/Ida “Maxie” Wells.


25 posted on 01/03/2018 4:22:28 AM PST by Moorka
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To: Secret Agent Man

>> abcnnbcbs

These media companies all use the same initials, yet none of them actually broadcast anything anymore. It s all over cable or the internet now.


26 posted on 01/03/2018 4:33:42 AM PST by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election!)
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To: Dalberg-Acton

The G-Man has stated the break-in was a 100% Dean operation to retrieve the DNC book of hookers/prostitutes as it included the name of his future wife.

Dean always threatened to sue Liddy...but never did ‘cuz he knew Liddy spoke the truth.


27 posted on 01/03/2018 4:55:08 AM PST by newfreep ("INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" @HOROWITZ39, DAVID HOROWITZ)
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To: Olog-hai

With Nixon’s placement of the EPA and price controls, there is a lot for conservatives to dislike about Nixon.

But what he did have right was his battle against the left, beginning with Alger Hiss and culminating with his battle against the likes of Daniel Ellsberg et al.

Daniel Ellsberg and his ideological descendants in office today are bent on destroying America. Nixon was right to hate them as see them as the threat they are, as many of us do.

Nixon wasn’t handsome or even likable for many, but he was right in this respect.


28 posted on 01/03/2018 5:03:01 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: William Tell

Dean is, and was, a craven, sniveling scumbag. He has lived and will die with that.

Such is the life of a quisling. The right abhors him, and the left despises him.


29 posted on 01/03/2018 5:05:31 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: Olog-hai

If you read Whitewater it is hard to find any real crime. There certainly wasn’t anything that wasn’t done by both sides.


30 posted on 01/03/2018 5:34:40 AM PST by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: Cincinatus

Possibly, if there had been a Fox News they would have brought up Dean’s wife’s whoring background coverup motivations and perhaps changed the landscape.


31 posted on 01/03/2018 5:43:07 AM PST by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: a fool in paradise

John Steinbeck was writing about President Eisenhower on January 20, 1953. This is nothing new.


32 posted on 01/03/2018 5:48:04 AM PST by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: bray

??? Whitewater ???

You mean Watergate?


33 posted on 01/03/2018 5:52:03 AM PST by Enchante (FusionGPS "dirty dossier" scandal links Hillary, FBI, CIA, Dept of Justice... "Deep State" is real)
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To: jerod

That is a sound, cogent, and historically accurate analysis.

However, I feel we are WAY through the looking glass on this. The Democrat Party has been absolutely overtaken by fringe kooks. Rational analysis is no longer effective in figuring out what they’re likely to do. I have no doubt they’d pull the trigger, just because they can, and they ACTUALLY BELIEVE that Trump is Hitler.

There will be no small number of establishment RINOs willing to join them.


34 posted on 01/03/2018 5:57:03 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Olog-hai

I. Baseless speculation is fun, so I’ll see Dean’s “survive Watergate if Foxnews had existed”, and raise him to “Watergate wouldn’t have happened.”

Why?: Nixon saw the entire news media as arrayed in Democrat lockstep against him, in support of a far-Left candidate. With “fair and balanced” coverage, Nixon would have no reason to think McGovern had a prayer of winning, and whatever was in the Watergate Hotel would have been beneath notice.

II. No, Mr. Dean, Congress cannot impeach Presidents for reasons not enumerated in the Constitution, or twist interpretations into something they are not (mean tweets are a high misdemeanor!). That is called a coup d’état. It would trigger a Constitutional crisis and possibly a cleansing purge. Not happening.


35 posted on 01/03/2018 6:14:52 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
“I think there’s more likelihood (Nixon) might have survived if there’d been a Fox News,” he added, suggesting that more conservative voices critical of special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation will be beneficial to Trump. …
As loath as I am to have posted CNN here, the other outlet who wrote about this is Politico.
36 posted on 01/03/2018 6:44:08 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Trump20162020

It’s an admission of how the left-wing media worked together back in the 1970s to utterly control the narrative.


37 posted on 01/03/2018 6:46:01 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

John Dean is responsible for Nixon’s resignation. He lied about his break-ins to Nixon while telling the Dems it was Nixon who ordered them.

Dean was trying to minimize his own prison time. I doubt Nixon ever really knew what was going on.


38 posted on 01/03/2018 6:47:21 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Buckeye McFrog
The times they are a changing, and while Nixon was noble and courageous to resign in 1974. In these times the more courageous act by Trump would be to say... 'Screw you, I'm not going anywhere' and the vast majority of those who voted for him would agree with such a stance.

I've seen some wacky political stuff over the past 47 years, and especially since the arrival of the Clinton's, but I'm willing to bet that the American people are mature enough to understand that congress can not circumvent the will of the people.

Given the resources provided by the internet and non mainstream media, and Trump's proven ability to overcome one of the most vicious mainstream media attacks ever assailed against a politician running for office, and his ability to withstand the daily and continuous assault the media has delivered since his election. Donald Trump is just the sort of politician who could point that fact out with clarity.

They may want and wish to impeach him, and they may even succeed in doing so, but if they do they should be prepared for his response and the consequences of their actions. A constitutional crises and political disruption that will be placed on their heads... Not his.

As Harry Callahan played by Clint Eastwood said... "Go ahead, make my day". I myself can hardly wait for it.

39 posted on 01/03/2018 8:42:00 AM PST by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: Olog-hai

LOL!! The one most like Nixon isn’t Trump, it’s Hillary!


40 posted on 01/03/2018 1:01:02 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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