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Nutritionists says water only diet is most dangerous ever
luxoraleader.com ^ | December 26, 2017

Posted on 12/26/2017 7:31:14 AM PST by BenLurkin

Eating disorder expert Joanne Labiner likened Water Fasting to conditions like anorexia and said it should be avoided, especially at a time of year when people are considering slimming down after Christmas.

She said: ‘It can be so bad for your organs. That’s why people with anorexia can die of a heart attack. Their body feeds on their heart.

‘Our body thinks it’s an emergency and tries to prevent that fat storage from being used up, and it feeds on the muscle’.

On social media site Twitter dieters claimed that the Water Fast left their skin looking ‘amazing’.

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NHS guidelines say that if you want to lose weight you should lose no more than 2lbs a week if you want it to be sustainable.

Kidney specialist Dr Jason Fung, said that short term fasting worked but only for certain patients. He suggested that water fasts were appropriate for clients who are obese or have Type 2 diabetes – but only under the supervision of a doctor.

He said: ‘It can be done, people do them, but they have to be done safely.

‘I don’t think it’s the safest thing to do, but if you’re obese, it’s not the most dangerous thing, either. If you’re relatively slender, it’s more dangerous’. Dr Fung, who wrote a book called ‘The Complete Guide to Fasting’, added: ‘The longer you (fast) the more risks you take’. 

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: anorexia; diet; disorders; fasting; water; wateron; y
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

>>perv

First you delusionally fabricate some degree I must have along with student debt — and now “perv”.

Are all your “arguments” so disingenuously malformed?

Someone with an actual rational interest and perspective might wonder what the measurable conditions for “excessive” might be.

But not you.

SMH.


101 posted on 12/26/2017 1:39:06 PM PST by HLPhat ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" -- Government with any other purpose is not American.)
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To: HLPhat

>What’s the long term prognosis if the muscle tissue happens to be your heart?

The body rebuilds the muscle tissue from protein every day and your body has a lot of muscle mass.

Glycogen reserves are only about 1,500 to 2,000 calories. Which means if you ever do any sort of heavy physical activity for a prolonged period then you’re body will also use glyconeogenesis to produce Glycogen. It’s not starvation mode, it’s normal mode.


102 posted on 12/26/2017 1:39:52 PM PST by JohnyBoy (The GOP Senate is intentionally trying to lose the majority.)
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To: JohnyBoy

>>the body rebuilds the muscle tissue from protein every day

From what protein, if someone is on a water fast?


103 posted on 12/26/2017 1:41:01 PM PST by HLPhat ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" -- Government with any other purpose is not American.)
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To: PA Engineer

Psst, Super-Genius.

Repeat this reaaaal slow:

“Inuit have been observed to have enlarged livers with an increased capacity for gluconeogenesis, and have greater capacity for excreting urea to remove ammonia, a toxic byproduct of protein breakdown.[54][63][64][65]”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketosis

And then tell us how the process of gluconeogenesis fuels the brain with ESSENTIAL glycogen.



104 posted on 12/26/2017 1:45:37 PM PST by HLPhat ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" -- Government with any other purpose is not American.)
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To: HLPhat

Go read some metabolic pathway porn or something.


105 posted on 12/26/2017 1:46:40 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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To: BobL

Nah Bob, you were done when you pulled:

    “starvation happens when you run out of usable fat...then your body will start eating muscle.”
    https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3616981/posts?page=59#59

Out of your gluconeogenesly ignorant wherever.


106 posted on 12/26/2017 1:48:14 PM PST by HLPhat ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" -- Government with any other purpose is not American.)
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To: HLPhat

>That why the US Military bothered to develop the MRE instead of just feeding troops a water bag and a stick of butter?

Anyone who’s studied history knows that armies that don’t consume grains are better in combat than grain fed armies. The Mongols and other nomadic people had major advantages over their opponents because they didn’t have to eat every 11 hours thus supply lines were much less of a problem for them.

But carbs are much, much cheaper than meats and fats, and much easier to store and transport so that’s what most armies run on.


107 posted on 12/26/2017 1:48:41 PM PST by JohnyBoy (The GOP Senate is intentionally trying to lose the majority.)
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To: HLPhat

>From what protein, if someone is on a water fast?

Brain requirements for glycogen are minimal. You lose some muscle mass on a long-term fast. So?

As I’ve said there are multiple cases of obese people who’ve stopped eating altogether and they didn’t die from it. The primary issues people have are a lack of vitamins and electrolytes and the primary damage from not getting enough of those things is damage to the liver and kidneys.


108 posted on 12/26/2017 1:55:38 PM PST by JohnyBoy (The GOP Senate is intentionally trying to lose the majority.)
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To: JohnyBoy

>>You lose some muscle mass on a long-term fast. So?

So is that a problem when the muscle mass is cardiac muscle?


109 posted on 12/26/2017 1:58:12 PM PST by HLPhat ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" -- Government with any other purpose is not American.)
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To: HLPhat

>So is that a problem when the muscle mass is cardiac muscle?

There’s no evidence that cardiac muscle is impacted by it until the body is very low in muscle mass.


110 posted on 12/26/2017 1:59:29 PM PST by JohnyBoy (The GOP Senate is intentionally trying to lose the majority.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

"In summary, we observed that a substantial portion of runners have abnormally low serum sodium concentrations after completing a marathon. Excessive consumption of fluids, as evidenced by substantial weight gain while running, is the single most important factor associated with hyponatremia”
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa043901#t=articleDiscussion

They gained weight while running a marathon. Gee, I wonder how that works.  But not hypotonically opinionated you - when you can fabricate students loans and degrees in place of rational thought.

And folks wonder how this country became so psychotically detached from reality and science that kids think they can change their gender.

SMH.

111 posted on 12/26/2017 2:08:54 PM PST by HLPhat ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" -- Government with any other purpose is not American.)
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To: JohnyBoy
>>There’s no evidence that cardiac muscle is impacted by it until the body is very low in muscle mass.

Survey says:

https://www.google.com/search?q=cardiac+muscle+catabolism

FAIL.

112 posted on 12/26/2017 2:11:28 PM PST by HLPhat ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" -- Government with any other purpose is not American.)
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To: HLPhat

I was wrong. You are a pervert.


113 posted on 12/26/2017 2:18:54 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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To: HLPhat
It is called ketones "eminent moron."

Just one of a avalanche of current papers on VLCHF (ketogenic) diets. Must suck being you.

Twelve-month outcomes of a randomized trial of a moderate-carbohydrate versus very low-carbohydrate diet in overweight adults with type 2 diabetes mellitus or prediabetes

My only disagreement with the paper is the term pre-diabetes. As Kraft pointed out, it is diabetes.

Now run along and google other nonsense you have no understanding of. Don't waste your time posting to me. I already know you are an idiot.
114 posted on 12/26/2017 2:19:45 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media and Shariah Socialism.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Nothing perverted about calling a hypotonically saturated opinion, like what you've put on display, out for what it is.

Needs a name for the literature though - I dub it:

E. Auto Hydrocephalus

115 posted on 12/26/2017 2:27:47 PM PST by HLPhat ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" -- Government with any other purpose is not American.)
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To: PA Engineer
>>It is called ketones "eminent moron."


"Ketone bodies are produced by the liver under the circumstances listed above (i.e. fasting, starving, low carbohydrate diets, prolonged exercise and untreated type 1 diabetes mellitus) as a result of intense gluconeogenesis, which is the production of glucose from non-carbohydrate sources (not including fatty acids)"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketone_bodies


"gluconeogenesis" whoop - there's that ESSENTIAL gluco-whatever again Mr. "engineer".

How long you been running your brain on water and butter?

116 posted on 12/26/2017 2:34:19 PM PST by HLPhat ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" -- Government with any other purpose is not American.)
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To: HLPhat

Keep posting. You have become a parody of yourself.


117 posted on 12/26/2017 2:41:11 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media and Shariah Socialism.)
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To: JohnyBoy

>>and much easier to store and transport

Meanwhile, in reality land:

“US Stockpile of Cheese At Highest Level Since 1984”
https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/barbara-hollingsworth/us-stockpile-cheese-highest-level-1984


118 posted on 12/26/2017 2:41:15 PM PST by HLPhat ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" -- Government with any other purpose is not American.)
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To: PA Engineer

Tell the class how glucose isn’t essential for brain function again Mr. butterhead “engineer”.

LOL.


119 posted on 12/26/2017 2:45:33 PM PST by HLPhat ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" -- Government with any other purpose is not American.)
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To: HLPhat

Just remember eat every fifteen minutes or your going to die.


120 posted on 12/26/2017 2:52:50 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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