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Posted on 12/20/2017 12:22:51 PM PST by Allen In Texas Hill Country

OK, I've put this vanity post off for a month or more. Its a bit lame but when I find I enjoy something a bit I like to post what I found.

So here goes,,,,, when I'm at the computer and not on FR I do solitaire. Yeah I did say lame but I put my time in. I did SOAP II, Autocoder, GMAP, COBOL, Burroughs medium systems assembler, several variations of SDL and finally C++. But to get back....

Specifically I find Freecell very entertaining. Statistically one can win 9 out of 10 games. Maybe half of those won might be considered not too much of a challenge. On the hand, no she didn't wear a glove. The other wins require patience and a bit of this and that. Those wins don't come easy and require thought. More than once I walk away and come back in a couple of hours and try something else and bingo, puzzle solved. Thats why I find it relaxing/enjoyable. Well relaxing after the win. Thats 9 out of 10.

FREECELL......


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KEYWORDS: freecell; solitaire; windows4workgroups
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To: robroys woman

I thought that game was called “mindsweeper”.


21 posted on 12/20/2017 12:39:22 PM PST by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

From the BOWEP...I like ‘Chip’s Challenge’ the best.


22 posted on 12/20/2017 12:40:10 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Ban pre-shredded cheese now! Make America Grate Again.)
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To: proxy_user

Yes, that is correct. All games in FreeCell are winnable.


23 posted on 12/20/2017 12:46:09 PM PST by PJBankard
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To: 867V309

Thank you.


24 posted on 12/20/2017 12:50:48 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

I think it is more than 9/10.

I have gone about 10,000 games across 10 years without losing — but I DO use “undo” a good bit so maybe that a definition of “losing.”

Out of the many thousands of games possible I think there are like 5 or 10 proven unwinnable.

I am too lazy to actually Google it but you can. :)


25 posted on 12/20/2017 12:52:33 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Conservatives should do daily affirmations: reading/repeating the 9th and 10th Amendments)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

Yes, I’ve seen reference to 100% and I do use undo/ctrl-Z to start over if need be. But I’ve got 3 different machines and right now they all say 90%+ wins.


26 posted on 12/20/2017 12:52:51 PM PST by Allen In Texas Hill Country
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

Once upon a time, I set out to determine if there were unwinnable games of Freecell, since I had read that in theory, all games are winnable.

Then I saw a game somewhere that was obviously unwinnable. IIRC, it consisted of a very ordered tableau, all of the cards laid out in order or something similar.

Once I saw that game that was so obviously unwinnable, then I stopped trying to play every single game of Freecell. Clearly, the hypothesis that all games are winnable was false.


27 posted on 12/20/2017 12:53:16 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

>>100% can be won.<<

There are a small number that cannot be won. Before they expanded the number of games there was only one unwinnable game. I think there are few more now.


28 posted on 12/20/2017 12:53:44 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Conservatives should do daily affirmations: reading/repeating the 9th and 10th Amendments)
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To: freedumb2003

Thank you


29 posted on 12/20/2017 12:54:14 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

There were some incredible difficult levels in Chip’s Challenge.

I’d completely forgotten about that game, but it sure got me to waste the hours way back when.


30 posted on 12/20/2017 12:54:21 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: 867V309

Thanks for that, 1982 was a true legend. I knew a guy who wrote a simulator and proved empirically it could not be won.

I am sure it can be described mathematically why but I think you would have to be Nash or someone to actually do it.


31 posted on 12/20/2017 12:56:22 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Conservatives should do daily affirmations: reading/repeating the 9th and 10th Amendments)
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

Beau is an expert at Free Cell. He won’t quit until he’s won - even if it means backing all the way OUT and starting over again.

I don’t think he’s lost a single game. I’ll ask and get back to you on that...


32 posted on 12/20/2017 1:05:35 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

I bounce around on phone games. Never more than a month or so on one game. I’m on grow empire Rome now. Last month was PGA tour golf. Next month who knows.

When I’m on my laptop though it’s free cell and classic solitaire. Those never change. Timeless classics, for the computer age anyways.


33 posted on 12/20/2017 1:08:26 PM PST by barmag25
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

Wow, people actually play thousands of Freecell games? I’ve played 418 games in about four years, have won 70% and don’t use undo. You could undo most any of the games until you won, but is that really the point?

Just play a few games every few weeks.


34 posted on 12/20/2017 1:19:08 PM PST by Will88
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

I once played a game of freecell where I didn’t have to move one card to the bank. Played the whole game just moving stacks.


35 posted on 12/20/2017 1:19:36 PM PST by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: proxy_user

No....there is one known impossible to win game! Now you are going to ask me the number. It’s in the 13,000’s, that all I can remember.


36 posted on 12/20/2017 1:20:23 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them.)
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To: So Cal Rocket

#11982 is impossible.
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I learned that the hard way. Won every game until that one. Some in less than 60 seconds and some perhaps 30 minutes.


37 posted on 12/20/2017 1:20:38 PM PST by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed. About time)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

I have a hard enough time not looking stupid accidentally. Why would you want to seem stupid?


38 posted on 12/20/2017 1:35:54 PM PST by sparklite2 (I hereby designate the ongoing kerfuffle Diddle-Gate.)
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

Freecell is fun, but I just start by clicking all four corners. If there’s a bomb in one, meh, on to the next game. If not, the rest of the game goes much easier.


39 posted on 12/20/2017 1:43:48 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: exDemMom
I found a way...many decades ago...to use an application to read the binary files and glean the Level Codes so you could go to any level you wanted to. Essentially skipping the early easy ones to get to the more difficult ones.

A lot more interesting than starting all over from the start. I think I have a hard copy of the codes...somewhere. Probably in the same box as all my 5 1/4" floppies.

40 posted on 12/20/2017 2:15:41 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Ban pre-shredded cheese now! Make America Grate Again.)
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