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1 posted on 10/10/2017 9:09:22 PM PDT by SteveH
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a lot, as all we all...


2 posted on 10/10/2017 9:10:46 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World)
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I do not think he was alone in this.


3 posted on 10/10/2017 9:12:09 PM PDT by Bobalu (The NFL, Watching their demise is more fun than watching their games.)
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Is it true that floors 35 to 39 of the Mandalay Bay are owned by Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, and operated as a separate facility?


5 posted on 10/10/2017 9:15:47 PM PDT by BeauBo
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Whenever the FBI is involved there always seems to be a cover-up.


8 posted on 10/10/2017 9:19:39 PM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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You are missing all of Paddock's prep leading up to the night of the shooting. Paddock's efforts to secure other venues. Paddock's firearm and ammo purchases. Paddock sent his girlfriend away, sent her around $100K. The latter two activities can certainly signal suicidal ideations.

Could Campos be involved? Sure. We don't have enough info to know one way or another.

9 posted on 10/10/2017 9:20:17 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Tear down the Mexican Carrier plant and use the materials to build the wall)
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“when Campos stumbled into the room”

Where did you see that?


13 posted on 10/10/2017 9:27:51 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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the latest (LE-revised) timeline based on LE info is here (sorry, it is CNN):

The cold, calculating timeline of the Las Vegas gunman
Eric Levenson

By Eric Levenson, CNN

Updated 11:17 AM ET, Tue October 10, 2017

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/05/us/las-vegas-shooting-timeline/index.html


37 posted on 10/10/2017 10:25:17 PM PDT by SteveH
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“there is no evidence that I am aware of that has been made public that SCP was even alive when Campos stumbled into the room”

So Paddock buys all these guys, rents the hotel room, lugs them into his hotel room in several trips, all for what exactly, in your scenario?


38 posted on 10/10/2017 10:36:07 PM PDT by Boogieman
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If everything is on the up and up, where is this guy Campos?

At least he should have been seen by someone, somewhere. And there should be a photo of him.

If no one has seen Campos and no one has a photo of him, does the guy even exist?

I think Campos exists but for reasons yet to be fully explained, people are hiding him from public view. That takes a lot of effort. So Campos has something to tell but is not being allowed to tell it. The alternatives are that there is no such person or else his injuries are much worse than we have been told so far.


43 posted on 10/11/2017 12:05:24 AM PDT by SteveH
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Will the FBI ever admit that the Vegas massacre was the result of federal law enforcement posing as ISIS extremists to interdict Paddock, but that they lost control of the plan and the terrorist? It’s happened before (remember Fast and Furious?) It certainly would explain why Paddock planned, but never executed the attacks on at least 2 other music concerts prior to Vegas. His government handlers posing as ISIS managed to shut him down on those planned attacks by whatever excuse (not the right time or place for your martyrdom, brother?). Like coitus interruptus, it only served to enrage Paddock to not carry out those attacks. When it came time for Vegas, he may have decided not to be deterred again. Like a lot of other people, I don’t believe for a minute that he didn’t have help and that no one had foreknowledge of Paddock’s plans. I seem to be the only one, however, who thinks his “helpers” were the incompetent Feds who lost control of their target. I do wonder if Sheriff Lombardo suspected this, as well, when he said in one press briefing that he believed Paddock was the lone shooter, but not acting alone.

The Feds posing as ISIS is a common and ongoing tactic in the war on terror, but it’s a dangerous game. In this instance, I think they lost that game and are now doing everything they can to cover it up. I’m sure they feel justified doing so, covered by the excuse that they have other interdiction schemes ongoing that would be jeopardized if they were forthcoming about how they dropped the ball on Vegas.


44 posted on 10/11/2017 12:20:20 AM PDT by torqemada (Those who know, don't say. Those who say, don't know.)
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Why are so many people mainly suspecting wrongdoing by the feds, when the mass murder was committed in Las Vegas? It happened in Las Vegas, and according to the story, there were extreme amounts of money transferred.

Do we believe that Paddock netted $5 million dollars in one year from gambling and similarly enormous sums of money in other years? No. Only people who believe flamboyant con artists would believe that, and only career criminals would try to fool outsiders with such a story. What kind of organization would use Hollywood-like drama to intimidate victims and witnesses?

Do we believe that the feds control security-related conditions and business records in Las Vegas businesses? No.

Do the feds control local governments? No. Influential (wealthy) local constituents do.

Something to consider?


50 posted on 10/11/2017 2:25:27 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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I see we are on the same page.
This was BEFORE the timeline change:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3592415/posts


51 posted on 10/11/2017 3:06:35 AM PDT by jimjohn (2nd American Civil War: ongoing since January 20, 2017.)
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The alternative scenario is that SCP is a patsy and was executed before or during the shootings. His body was placed in the room to provide a convenient story for the public to focus on while the trail of the real perps grows colder by the hour.

Well, the REAL shooters are AWESOME hackers, then, because they modified computer records in the Hotel and at the ATF, and EXCELLENT burglers, because they broke into every gun store and doctored the 4413 forms!

82 posted on 10/11/2017 6:59:15 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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Simple physics and trajectory analysis shows how unlikely it is that whomever was shooting from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay using a bump-fire stock equipped rifle in either .223 or .308 managed to hit one person three times with consecutive bullets. Would it be impossible? No, but the odds are approaching zero.

Furthermore, independent audio forensic analysis shows without a doubt the presence of at least one other shooter from around 250 yards from the person shooting one of the videos.

LE is starting from a conclusion (Paddock was the only shooter) and moving backwards looking for the evidence to fit that conclusion. A real investigation would have involved a complete shutdown of everything within about a 350 to 400 yard radius of the center of the concert venue the night of the event whereupon thorough searches would have been conducted for anything that indicated another shooter in another location - or anything out of the ordinary...


100 posted on 10/11/2017 8:28:19 AM PDT by DBG8489
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MGM stock was shorted in August.

Here is a scenario that makes sense. The conspiracy is a big one. Maybe SCP got dragged in because he laundered money for the someone and was dirty. Maybe SCP had a bad feeling about it beforehand and maybe he sent his GF away with some money.

LV LE caught off guard and off base. Concert promoters and security caught off guard and off base. MGM Resorts caught off guard and off base. Everyone lawyering up for a massive negligence lawsuit naming the city, hotel, promoters, security, and all subcontractors, even possibly the performers.

(dodgy) MGM Resorts lawyers take over operations, sequesters the security guard who turns out to have a shaky history, challenge dodgy) LV LE. Somewhere between LV and NYC is a “situation room” with nothing but lawyers working this 24/7. LV LE does not have a situation room full of $500/hr lawyers working 24/7, so LV LE is being jerked around by changing stories of “witnesses” and evidence that mysteriously vanishes and their political bosses at LV city hall who are owned by the hotels.

Would the legal pressure serve to keep the story line simple (SCP lone nut theory) or more complex (SCP patsy theory)? Which theory would minimize settlement losses?


103 posted on 10/11/2017 8:44:00 AM PDT by SteveH
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I’ve got a serious problem with the “200 rounds” thing. I’m confused ...

The gunman (possibly but not definitively Paddock) sees the approaching security guard through the camera set up on the room service cart in the hallway. The trap has been sprung.

The gunman then blazes away through the door, but that’s what mystifies me. Most semi-autos have a maximum magazine capacity of 30, maybe 50. I don’t think I’ve ever heard of a 100-round magazine and surely not a 200-rounder. So the gunman hammers away with 50 rounds, stops to change magazines, hammers away again, swaps, shoots, swaps and shoots? Did he even check the camera to see if he hit the security guard in the middle of this fusillade? Why didn’t he just open the door and finish the job at close range with a single round?

The alternative to magazines is a belt-fed weapon, but I haven’t heard anything about metal links found on the floor. Then again, I haven’t seen any definitive weapon information, such as which guns were fired, which weren’t, how many calibers, how many empty casings, any tracers or incendiary rounds, etc.

Still so many questions about this one.


107 posted on 10/11/2017 10:12:31 AM PDT by DNME (The only solution to a BAD guy with a gun is a GOOD guy with a gun.)
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jesus campos?

118 posted on 10/12/2017 4:40:28 AM PDT by SteveH
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ABC News: Mandalay Bay didn’t call police when security guard was shot by Stephen Paddock
KNTV-TV Channel 13 - Las Vegas ^ | 4:41 PM, Oct 11, 2017 | Bryce Riley

Posted on 10/11/2017, 5:09:26 PM by SSS Two

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3594115/posts

Pressure mounts for Vegas police to explain response time
AP News ^

Posted on 10/12/2017, 4:25:18 AM by JP1201

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3594208/posts


119 posted on 10/12/2017 4:44:03 AM PDT by SteveH
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Las Vegas Inconsistencies- It’s Not Adding Up

The Truth Factory
Published on Oct 11, 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOuzwF1KCAU


122 posted on 10/13/2017 1:21:18 AM PDT by SteveH
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Vegas Shooting Updates: Police Were ALREADY in Hotel Before Shooting Began

AmericanEveryman
Published on Oct 12, 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoPcy-yxJg0


123 posted on 10/13/2017 1:36:28 AM PDT by SteveH
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