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las vegas shooting doctored timeline permits paddock as patsy conjecture
me | 2017/10/09 | me

Posted on 10/10/2017 9:09:22 PM PDT by SteveH

So far as I am concerned, there is the highest doubt that SCP is the shooter as this article and just about everyone else in the media seems to be assuming now. This is because of the doctored timeline that LE initially gave out placing SCP in the room after the outdoor shooting and shooting at Campos before shooting himself.

The doctored timeline could well have been used IMHO by LE to plant the notion that SCP was the shooter and was alone— i.e., a so-called “lone nut.”

Tucker Carson had some SS agent on this evening and both Tucker and the agent blissfully made the presumption that SCP was the shooter when there is no evidence that I am aware of that has been made public that SCP was even alive when Campos stumbled into the room.

The alternative scenario is that SCP is a patsy and was executed before or during the shootings. His body was placed in the room to provide a convenient story for the public to focus on while the trail of the real perps grows colder by the hour.

The patsy conjecture explains why there is a problem with the lack of motive. Under the patsy conjecture there is a lack of motive because SCP was in fact not the shooter.

The wire transfer to SCP's girlfriend is at best circumstantial evidence and at worst totally irrelevant or planted.

LE seems to me now about thoroughly discredited as a legit source of info on the mass murder.

A person in the USA is innocent until proven guilty. SCP will never get a trial to prove his guilt. SCP is at most a suspect and will forever be at most a suspect.

What am I missing?


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: chat; lasvegas; lasvegashooting; paddock; scpleimhossusa; vanity
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To: SteveH

I think you should have taken notes.


21 posted on 10/10/2017 9:39:29 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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To: SteveH

The Weasels at the FBI are not helping either.

Remember that LVMPD was part of the Bunkerville “matter”.


22 posted on 10/10/2017 9:40:13 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: TexasGator

I supplied you with an answer within 2 minutes.

your advice is however noted and duly filed.


23 posted on 10/10/2017 9:42:05 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: SteveH

“I supplied you with an answer within 2 minutes.”

You gave a link to an article which did not address my question.


24 posted on 10/10/2017 9:45:31 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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To: CJ Wolf; SteveH

Meanwhile:

Las Vegas shooter’s Reno home broken into, FBI revisiting
http://www.rgj.com/story/news/crime/2017/10/10/las-vegas-shooters-reno-home-broken-into-fbi-revisiting/750725001/


25 posted on 10/10/2017 9:49:05 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Bobalu
The strangest thing so far about this is the utter lack of video. We saw the Ray Rice elevator assault from 2 different cameras. We recently saw the video of the Seattle player who ran from police. We saw him crouch and flee, then from another camera we saw him hide.

Yet in the most videotaped city in the US, in buildings with the most comprehensive surveillance, we have ZERO video of the perp during the run up to the assault, for any purpose at all. We have ZERO video of the counteroffensive from any angle.

I don’t want to be conspiratorial, but what exactly is being withheld from us? What exactly is the ACTUAL scope of the original crime?

26 posted on 10/10/2017 9:49:43 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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To: TexasGator

from the article

On the 32 nd floor, noticing an ajar door, the security guard began approaching and was then hit by some of the hundreds of bullets Paddock fired into the hallway.


27 posted on 10/10/2017 9:50:14 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: TexasGator

Too many campos stories! This article, dated today, has campos getting shot while in the stairwell.

“Paddock sprayed hundreds of bullets through the stairwell door, hitting Mr Campos in the leg at 9.59pm.”
https://www.google.com/amp/www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/las-vegas-police-explain-didnt-11322813.amp


28 posted on 10/10/2017 9:53:39 PM PDT by glenduh
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To: BenLurkin

I saw that. shame.


29 posted on 10/10/2017 9:54:14 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

my uninformed imagining is that all non-civilian video was immediately impounded by police and the feds as part of the investigation. kind of like a black hole. evidence in, garbage out.

i wonder why the LV sheriff appeared so annoyed in the press conference(s)?

exactly when did LE know that their original doctored timeline was garbage? and what accounts for the delay in reporting the error in the timeline?


30 posted on 10/10/2017 9:54:21 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: CJ Wolf

Two words: Matthew Bracken.

“Enemies Foreign and Domestic”

Someone is using it as a playbook. Read it. You won’t regret it.


31 posted on 10/10/2017 9:59:35 PM PDT by hadit2here ("The urge to save humanity is nearly always a cover for the urge to rule." -- H.L. Mencken)
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To: SteveH

I’m certain the police have all that. But these have to be digital files, not magnetic tape like back in the day. Likely installed drives, not removable media, maybe even all uploaded to a cloud server. Everything can be duplicated as clean as the original recording. Could the police actually impound all original hard drives leaving the entire enterprise unprotected?


32 posted on 10/10/2017 10:02:34 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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To: glenduh

Las Vegas police explain why they didn’t take on mass killer Stephen Paddock sooner - but questions remain

Steve Robson
Mirror (UK)

03:45, 11 OCT 2017Updated04:54, 11 OCT 2017

https://www.google.com/amp/www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/las-vegas-police-explain-didnt-11322813.amp

Paddock, 64, had screwed it shut in an effort to obstruct responding police.

He was in the middle of installing cameras when he heard Mr Campos on the other side of the door using his radio.

Paddock sprayed hundreds of bullets through the stairwell door, hitting Mr Campos in the leg at 9.59pm.

Undersheriff Kevn McMahill talks journalists through the bodycam footage released by police

now here is some interesting stuff... how did Campos know that it was SCP screwing the door shut since they were on opposing sides of the door and presumably it is a solid wood or metal fire door? The article nowhere indicates if and how Campos identified SCP as the perp, but skips right along, describing the incident as entirely done by SCP. This article is dated Oct. 11 so there is no reason given the doctored timeline to presume that SCP was the perp or at least the only perp.

Next, the undersheriff is shown displaying some video.

of the perp?

no.

it is the bodycam video from the concert on the ground floor, the kill zone but not the nest.

so again, the LE and the media seem to be making efforts to deflect readers away from any notion that the perp was anyone other than SCP and that SCP acted alone.


33 posted on 10/10/2017 10:06:41 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Yes, it would be nice if we were given ONE video of Paddock hauling around heavy luggage. Is that too much to ask? Apparently so..........


34 posted on 10/10/2017 10:12:00 PM PDT by 4Liberty (MSM = Democrat's PR firm)
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To: hadit2here
Travis McGee's book are great. 👍🏼
35 posted on 10/10/2017 10:13:42 PM PDT by 4Liberty (MSM = Democrat's PR firm)
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To: glenduh

How’d he get from the stairway, next to the suite, down to the elevator, all the way down the hall away from the suite and having to cross in front of the suite to do it? makes no sense. And I thought the stairway was screwed shut? And why would someone expend at least 2 and possibly 4 clips on one scrawny unarmed guy? that makes no sense either


36 posted on 10/10/2017 10:17:21 PM PDT by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: SteveH

the latest (LE-revised) timeline based on LE info is here (sorry, it is CNN):

The cold, calculating timeline of the Las Vegas gunman
Eric Levenson

By Eric Levenson, CNN

Updated 11:17 AM ET, Tue October 10, 2017

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/05/us/las-vegas-shooting-timeline/index.html


37 posted on 10/10/2017 10:25:17 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: SteveH

“there is no evidence that I am aware of that has been made public that SCP was even alive when Campos stumbled into the room”

So Paddock buys all these guys, rents the hotel room, lugs them into his hotel room in several trips, all for what exactly, in your scenario?


38 posted on 10/10/2017 10:36:07 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: 4Liberty; Travis McGee

And people thought he only was wrote fiction books. ;-)


39 posted on 10/10/2017 10:50:57 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Sgt_Schultze
what exactly is being withheld from us?

the autopsy

40 posted on 10/10/2017 10:52:54 PM PDT by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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