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Ban these folking stupid organizations
1 posted on 10/09/2017 6:32:01 AM PDT by yldstrk
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To: yldstrk

Safe bet this one will soon be off campus.

I believe most are long past hazing. The ones that allow it now are idiots.


2 posted on 10/09/2017 6:35:34 AM PDT by boycott
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This is indeed tragic and this young man should have never died. Yet this largely male ritual of extreme hazing that often results in death has occurred among young groups of males throughout recorded history. The various rituals be they happening in fraternities, military units, religious orders, athletic teams or social organizations appear to be a rite of passage that may have some Darwinian basis to ensure survival of the larger group.


3 posted on 10/09/2017 6:40:48 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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The numbers if deaths and injuries over the history of the Greeks at PSU is very small. Compared to the good that comes from forming group bonds on a campus of over 25,000 students

This tragedy reflects a lack of ADULT supervision ( 18-22 yr old jocks are not “ adults” in terms of self regulating risky behaviors)
And
A lack of social conscience and empathy on the part of every young man who ignored the dying pledges’ distress ( parent failure)
And
And great ignorance of basic first aid

Jeezus - almost every teen in BS and GS has had First Aid training to recognize severe injury. If frat houses had ADULT on premise and a trained first aider this could have neen averted. And require every Greek to take a course like BSA YPT


4 posted on 10/09/2017 6:46:20 AM PDT by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: yldstrk

I haven’t finished reading the article yet. However, I am not surprised that the replies are treating this as no big deal ... it’s as if they didn’t read the article, for one thing.


7 posted on 10/09/2017 6:51:37 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("I prefer to think of myself as ... civilized." ~Jonathan Q. Higgins)
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These so-called “brothers” should be charged with negligent homicide.


8 posted on 10/09/2017 6:57:19 AM PDT by Flick Lives
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To: yldstrk

So what?

Big deal!

Penn State football will soon be ranked #2 in the nation and that’s all that matters.


13 posted on 10/09/2017 7:05:34 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim (Hillary Clinton: the official candidate of the National Sleep Foundation)
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To: yldstrk

Lovely culture at Pedo U. Just lovely.


16 posted on 10/09/2017 7:09:09 AM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: yldstrk
The ignorance at this fraternity and the resultant death is a criminal tragedy. The house has been shut down and the actives are now up on charges

Pro-fraternity people are for hazing deaths no more than pro-gun people are for mass shootings. Giving in to the current feminization of men isn't a good idea. Before we all suddenly start sounding like Pajama boy and argue that fraternities should be closed, ponder these cogent thoughts by Milo on the subject:

University administrators across the nation have been cracking down on Greek life. Why? Because they see them as an existential threat to their feminist agenda. They want a culture of numales, neutered bearded people who want to hug muslims not defend their country. A place where men can be manly and women can be womanly. It is your gender studies’ department’s worst nightmare. And it drives them insane.

In a way, it makes sense that the same administrators who hate Western civilization – and are ripping out of your curriculum the highest achievements of that civilization’s artists and thinkers — would try to stamp out the kind of male camaraderie on which that civilization was built, going as far back as my ancient Greek ancestors.

Look, don’t be idiots. Don’t haze your freshmen into the hospital. And do try not to break the law. But don’t let these miserable self-righteous p******ruin your college experience either. In modern society, there are fewer and fewer opportunities for men to be men. For masculinity to flourish in all its glory. For daring and risk-taking to live free, or at least relatively free. Fraternities are one of those places. They deserve to be protected.

19 posted on 10/09/2017 7:16:43 AM PDT by DoodleBob
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THAT was some reading. I assume that was this year - 2017. No mention of future trial dates? How people become so cold and immoral is beyond me. I don’t care if it is tradition.


25 posted on 10/09/2017 8:08:31 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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