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That compares the sounds. What do you think?
Not proof.
No comparison to a bump fired AR-10.
Here is a M249 SAW (Squad Automatic Weapon) that fires at a rate that can be adjusted between 600 to 1200 rounds per minute.
The M249 fires a 5.56 vs the M240 that fires a 7.62 round.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIPvPRWFd9A&app=desktop
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These two sites contain footage of the “shooting”... with fake gunfire sound effects overlaid... as the person taking the video says:”I actually don’t see anyone who is injured...”
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Ignore the commentary. Google immediately required a sign in for the first video; probably because the guy is such an intelligent Christian on that site.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToNhWHPy_5c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc66hMppH2M
You can see the bump stock in one of the photos. He likely went from weapon to weapon.
The sounds do match though in the video. I thought it was too sustained to be anything but an automatic.
Some stories said he owned 42 weapons. 16 were in the room. Then I’ve read 24. They haven’t told us much and all we know is from the leaked photos.
Have seen several people firing bumpfire weapons at the range. When fired unsupported it was difficult to keep the rounds on the range let alone hitting a target. Firing supported wasn’t much better.
Just stop.
We (former Infantry & Armor) have listened to another video taken from a higher floor of the Manadalay and are convinced it is .30 cal. and either an M60 or an M240 (RPD or RPKM). It is definitely not 5.56 and not a bump fire arrangement which as someone else has posted takes a lot of practice to make it function smoothly.
I think you have a very low threshold for “proof”.
Why is this important?
Now we know why he wanted to have some Valium so his grip would be somewhat wishy-washy to facilitate letting the gun do the work of bouncing back-and-forth
100 round Surefire mag and a bump stock.
BS ...
In 2012 Demolition Ranch did a video of a bump fire stock, it sounded very much like a belt fed weapon. And with a 60 round Surefire mag.
Any links found on the floor of the hotel room? No? Then it wasn’t a 240.
Ridiculous.
I think conspiracy theorists are uneducated morons.
What people are reporting about bump fire stocks being erratic and difficult to run is true when they are fired in a normal range type setting. That is when they are fired horizontally to the ground. However when bump firing either with a stock or without is done at an extreme downward angle (which this was) it's actually VERY easy to get very long and steady rate of fire. The reason for this is fairly simple. The trick to bump fire is pulling the weapon forward with an consistent force to keep the weapon bumping the trigger as it returns from recoil. When the weapon is pointed downward gravity does the work so the rifle is actually just bouncing up and down and activating the trigger.
This is the reason for the nice 500 RPM cyclic rate and the reason the bursts last about 10 seconds. 8-10 rounds per second empties a 100 hundred round Surefire mag in 10 seconds. Then the pause where the shooter takes a breather moves positions picks up a new rifle equipped the same way and repeats the process.
If the shooter actually had a belt fed he likely would have fired bursts lasting much longer than 10 seconds.
This was bump fire just as they are saying.
Is there any possible reason why Las Vegas Metro, or other agency with jurisdiction, hasn’t released a detailed list of every weapon found in the room and supporting data?
Such as how many weapons had been fired, the number of empty casings on the floor, tripods or other supports, full and empty mags, etc.?
There are millions of interested and knowledgeable parties who want to know. The more the cops dither and obfuscate, the more the conspiracy theorists are spinning new yarns. Just let us all know the truth.
