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How to Survive the Apocalypse
NYT ^ | 9/23/17 | ALEX WILLIAMS

Posted on 09/23/2017 10:44:31 PM PDT by Kartographer

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KEYWORDS: crisis; prepper; preppers; shtf
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I remember a lady posting a long while back that lived in NY and was worried about getting out. I find the folding kayak an intriguing idea. You of course need to practice, practice, practice using it. But paddling up river would be a good way to get out of the city and get up into northern NY State and more survivable conditions. Night vision gear would allow you to travel at night especially during the first days of your journey. The kayak needs some camouflage work so you can hide better during the day.
1 posted on 09/23/2017 10:44:32 PM PDT by Kartographer
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All planning falls apart.

Because no plan can take into account your fellow human being.

Those that survive the collapse of civilization will be lucky, period.


2 posted on 09/23/2017 10:46:43 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: Kartographer

Easy, do not take advice from Pinch and the NY Slime.


3 posted on 09/23/2017 10:49:18 PM PDT by Fungi (90 percent of all soil biomass is a fungus. Fungi rule the world.)
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To: Kartographer

When the SHTF, if you are not already in your bolt-hole, you stand little chance of getting through it.

People will be going nuts, and you can’t carry nearly enough ammo to deal with them.

this isn’t sarcasm.


4 posted on 09/23/2017 10:51:12 PM PDT by txnativegop (Socialism -- an evil created by ignorant a-holes!)
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You have the right of it, sir. Most people don’t have the mindset necessary to do what must be done in those circumstances. It calls for savagery and implacability. Thank heavens I’m already pretty much bugged out.


5 posted on 09/23/2017 11:00:51 PM PDT by Noumenon (Can you imagine if Islam were NOT the religion of peace?)
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I’m not but most of my family is. Thank God!


6 posted on 09/23/2017 11:03:38 PM PDT by txnativegop (Socialism -- an evil created by ignorant a-holes!)
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To: txnativegop

You’re absolutely right.

It’s not the event that kills so many, it’s the crazy people.


7 posted on 09/23/2017 11:06:01 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: txnativegop
When civilization is not around you have the choice to be either predator or prey. Choosing to be prey ain't the way to go.

Get your crew together quickly and if anyone trespasses on your ground after reading the warning sign then they become the prey. Don't forget to stake the bodies out around the warning signs so the next group of would-be trespassers takes them a little more seriously.
8 posted on 09/23/2017 11:15:37 PM PDT by Garth Tater (Gone Galt and I ain't coming back.)
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prepare? That is not a philosophical question, or a theological one.

Actually, it is. By the very mention of "the Apocaplypse", the question is already a theological one (for lack of a better term). Spiritual might be preferable, in fact. The Apostle John saw some things 2000 years ago by being closely tied in with powers that are beyond our domain. He saw them from a perspective where, in the eternal realm, the end of history has already taken place, and the merging of time and eternity was about to begin. The one terminates and merges with the other.

People who do not believe these things, or those who have refused to treat them as genuine and therefore have not dealt with them, are nonplussed.

Those who are impressed by the prophetic are fascinated to see things that should not have been known by a man 2000 years ago, lining up right before our eyes.

9 posted on 09/24/2017 12:45:19 AM PDT by Migraine ((A smartass who is right can be downright funny. A smartass who is wrong is just a smartass.))
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As long as some sniper isn’t on the shore or bridges trying to pick off people trying to escape by water.

A better idea is to not live in cities of that size to begin with.


10 posted on 09/24/2017 1:15:34 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Fungi

I did grit my teeth long enough to mostly read the article.

Despite his obvious scorn and derision of those who have the foresight to plan for an emergency, he brings up some good points and mentions some things I have not heard about before.


11 posted on 09/24/2017 1:23:51 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: txnativegop

The best thing to do is beat feet out of the area before most people realize just what the implications of the emergency really and and go animal on you.

Honestly, I would think a bike would be your best bet for a quick retreat.


12 posted on 09/24/2017 1:25:38 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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If you’ve got to reside in a metro for reasons of employment or family, reside on the periphery and know all the back roads and side streets, not to mention the unconventional routes not involving named thoroughfares. Primary exit routes will be clogged to the point of unusable if some major catastrophe is looming, witness attempted evacuations ahead of hurricanes over the past decade or so. It’s also important to know where you’re going. A vehicle that can function in a variety of less than ideal circumstances with a long range as far as fuel consumption is advisable. And, here comes a sort of silly sounding one but ponder it for a bit and it will make a great deal of sense: he who panics first panics best. Wait too long and you’re screwed, pardon the language.


13 posted on 09/24/2017 1:36:31 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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Even living in the country, knowing the back roads routes is the way to go.

I used to live in Fulton NY, close enough to Nine Mile to keep alternate routes out of the area in the back of my mind.

The LAST route I would take out of an area is the interstate or major roads.

Yes, the back roads and side streets would be your best be.


14 posted on 09/24/2017 1:56:34 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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Free yourself from being restricted to recognized “roads” and the options are greatly improved. Those 4wd vehicles are not just ego or trendiness, not the functional ones with high clearance and offroad tires at least. There are so many unimpeded routes that people never consider because we’re trained to the point of hardwired to think only of “road.” Rights of way for electric utility high tension wires are always kept clear and are everywhere, for instance. Knowing your destination and knowing available options might be the difference between making it or not.

If it’s really that bad, what to do once you get there is another matter.


15 posted on 09/24/2017 2:01:56 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Kartographer
When we were on vacation I bought matching (Chinese military light green) backpack, waist belt bag and camera bag (man purse). The amount of pockets, zippers, loops, netting is incredible.
16 posted on 09/24/2017 2:07:46 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Happy Nobama!)
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Apocalyptic
https://www.goodreads.com/genres/apocalyptic


17 posted on 09/24/2017 2:18:15 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Happy Nobama!)
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On second thought, why not start kayaking out of NYC right now?


18 posted on 09/24/2017 2:28:34 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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The Breakers Series: Books 1-3 Kindle Edition ($0.00)
https://www.amazon.com/Breakers-Books-Edward-W-Robertson-ebook/dp/B00E9YL3HM/ref=sr_1_30?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1506245379&sr=1-30&refinements=p_20%3AEnglish


19 posted on 09/24/2017 2:32:51 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Happy Nobama!)
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Carrying fuel is ok but during an “event” there will be plenty of fuel around during the initial stages. Carry the means to transfer it. Make it a habit to never let your vehicles get below half a tank. Everything I have that would be bug out driveable has a 200 mile range on half a tank.


20 posted on 09/24/2017 2:33:03 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Not my circus. Not my monkeys.)
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