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1 posted on 08/31/2017 9:19:47 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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Wow! Just think how smart I would have been if my parents hadn’t spanked me!!!


2 posted on 08/31/2017 9:23:46 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a Russian AK-47 and a French bikini.)
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More garbage.

I was spanked regularly.

Was in Gate in elementary school, graduated as an Electrical Engineer.

The lack of spanking and discipline is one of the reasons we have such an entitled (over nothing) couple of generations coming up.


4 posted on 08/31/2017 9:28:29 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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We’re linking IQ and spanking? Naw, there’s no agenda here.


5 posted on 08/31/2017 9:32:24 PM PDT by lurk
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For issues such as this I always consult the wisdom of Monty Python; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXT_IOt81Xs


6 posted on 08/31/2017 9:32:50 PM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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I was a firm believer in using love, logic and reasoning in directing my children’s behavior when they were younger - but first I had to get their attention LOL


7 posted on 08/31/2017 9:33:53 PM PDT by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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I’m against it. It teaches children that their parents are willing to physically hurt them. That’s bad.


8 posted on 08/31/2017 9:35:23 PM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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I see one line statements with weasel phrasing like “the study suggests”.

The smartest people I have known were subject to corporal punishment both at home and in school.

I detect the complete lack of any pretense of balance on the part of the presenter.

I cannot be expected to find such a presentation persuasive the the slightest. It reminds me of the vegan people who pretend that they are concerned about my health.


9 posted on 08/31/2017 9:36:23 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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If that was true, my IQ would be what it is today except there’d be a minus sign in front of it.


11 posted on 08/31/2017 9:36:37 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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Nonsense.

Careful, measured spanking can be a valuable and harmless disciplinary tool if used sparingly and appropriately: to impress upon a child the danger of a situation; to correct cruelty; against strong defiance.

Discipline must be administered with discipline, never in anger or disproportionately.

All that being said, there is the occasional child for whom spanking is completely ineffective. In those cases spanking would be counterproductive.


13 posted on 08/31/2017 9:37:10 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Your Free Speech is Violence. My Violence is Free Speech.)
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I was spanked regularly too! Er...uhm....but not by parents. By...

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14 posted on 08/31/2017 9:38:44 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (We're right, you're wrong - that's the end of the argument.)
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Spanked? Hell, I got the crap beat out of me.


16 posted on 08/31/2017 9:40:24 PM PDT by Fungi (90 percent of all soil biomass is a fungus. Fungi rule the world.)
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“Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. / Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.”

— Proverbs 23:13-14

“The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame.”

— Proverbs 29:15
The final word on the subject.

Of course, what is a few more millennia of man thinking he knows better than God, eh?
23 posted on 08/31/2017 9:47:06 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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You ripped off my profile.


25 posted on 08/31/2017 9:47:38 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Your Free Speech is Violence. My Violence is Free Speech.)
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I'll let an expert speak for me:

Proverbs 13:24 New International Version (NIV)
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Whoever spares the rod hates their children, but the one who loves their children is careful to discipline them.

Hard to refute centuries of wisdom...

26 posted on 08/31/2017 9:50:53 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Let Trump Be Trump. Would you rather have Hillary?)
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Arthur, do you have a child/children ?


36 posted on 08/31/2017 10:12:37 PM PDT by nopardons
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I’m smart enough to remember when my dads enthusiasm was getting geared up..........we all made it!:)


38 posted on 08/31/2017 10:13:45 PM PDT by heshtesh ((New Yorker for Cruz))
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My father used psychological warfare against me mostly.

I’d have preferred a good spanking, and just get it over with, rather than endure disapproval.

Mom spanked... And it pained her more than it did me.

The only way spanking would lower IQ is if you literally had your head up your @$$, and they used a wooden paddle.


51 posted on 08/31/2017 10:40:29 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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My parents were strong believers in spanking and my IQ is in the 99.4 percentile. Think how smart I’d be if they never laid a finger on me! LOL!


54 posted on 08/31/2017 11:09:48 PM PDT by Hootowl
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I was spanked and deserved every one I got.

Principal Kelly had a baseball bat the the wood shop had planned down to a flat surface. It was to be feared. If you got three licks from him do not tell your parents. They would call Mr. Kelly and ask why it happened. At this point you would probably get more at home.

I deserved them. I guess I could have been in Mensa instead of just 130 IQ. "I coulda been an contender." but Mr. Kelly beat 10 points off my IQ.

What passes for psychology today is mostly bovine scat with a few scientific words to confuse and are still bovine scat.

57 posted on 08/31/2017 11:37:54 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud-man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, CONSTITUTION WORTH DYING FOR!)
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Physical punishment is a legitimate form of discipline. Like any other form of punishment, it can be abuised.

My father used physical discipline—say, a belt—perhaps twice during my entire childhood, and I assure you that in each case it was eminently justifiable.

One thing I'm certain of is that it's patently asinine to adopt a dogmatic stance against the efficacy of spanking. Additionally, physical discipline of children is specifically sanctioned in the Bible, and therefore "outlawing" or stigmatizing it is in overt defiance to Biblical authority.

Whether to use spanking as a form of punishment—or not—is totally up to the judgement of the child's parents, and the State has no business whatsoever is telling parents how to raise their children—unless and until there is compelling evidence of some sort of abuse occurring.

Adopting the attitude that physical discipline is illegitimate or abusive—or that it automatically produces negative outcomes versus the lack of its use—is the height of nanny-state interference in the parenting process...

62 posted on 09/01/2017 12:44:01 AM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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