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It turns out the iPad was just too expensive after all
ZDNet ^ | August 2, 2017 | By Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Posted on 08/02/2017 12:40:44 PM PDT by Swordmaker

It seems that people love everything about Apple's tablet -- except the price.

One of the biggest complaints I've seen leveled against the iPad is that it was too expensive compared to other tablets, and that the high price was acting as a barrier to sales.

Turns out that was true.

The iPad is an interesting device. Once seen as possibly the successor to the iPhone, it's one of those devices that burned brightly, but burned itself out very quickly, going from launch to peak sales in under four years, and ever since it's been in steady decline.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: apple; applepinglist; ipad
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To: Swordmaker

400 million devices. Yeah that’s a failure


41 posted on 08/02/2017 3:14:15 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Swordmaker

I use my 10.5” iPad Pro and Apple Pencil all day long, from reading the news with my coffee in the morning, to using it for work to take handwritten notes, to surfing the web and playing games at night. I love the thing.


42 posted on 08/02/2017 3:23:01 PM PDT by Magnatron
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To: Swordmaker

I’ve loved both of mine.

L


43 posted on 08/02/2017 3:23:48 PM PDT by Lurker (America burned the witch.)
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To: murron
I’m just curious. I bought an Amazon Fire tablet for 49.99 for myself, and one on sale for 29.99 for my husband. I added a memory card to mine to increase the storage for under 20.00 to mine. I use it for everything, playing games, reading e-books, listening to podcasts, surfing the net. What is the difference between an IPad pro and the tablet I’m using?

I don't know when you bought your Amazon tablet, but assuming it is the latest version of the Amazon Kindle Fire, there is really no comparison in specs. About the only thing going for your tablet is price.

Essentially, murron, you get what you pay for. On the good side, in that price range, the Amazon tablet is the best of the lot, exhibiting good build quality. But, according to Laptopmagazine's review, to get to that price point, Amazon sacrificed a lot of screen and audio quality plus a lot of speed.

44 posted on 08/02/2017 3:27:13 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

It looks like they sell a lot more of them for Russian Christmas (1st Quarter) than they do for Western Christmas (4th Quarter) or back to school (3rd Quarter).


45 posted on 08/02/2017 3:29:03 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Swordmaker
Here's a chart from a few years ago about the rise of the Phablet (phones larger than 4 inch width). May have something to do with it. Larger screens on phones reduce the demand for full size tablets.


46 posted on 08/02/2017 3:33:12 PM PDT by Textide (Lord, grant that I may always be right, for thou knowest I am hard to turn. ~ Scotch-Irish prayer)
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To: TexasGator
Facts are facts.

Not when they are presented to hide the data. Why claim they represent something different than they do? A 15% uptick in a quarter that is usually the slowest of the year and then hiding that by not comparing similar Quarters is deliberatly obfuscation of the facts. THAT is bias.

Show me on that chart where ANY PREVIOUS year-over-year quarter had a similar uptick? You can't since the decline began. . . yet Adrian Kingsley-Hughes does NOT point that out. He hides that fact in the glut of data so most people would not see the uptick among all those high peaks of the Christmas quarters. Those quarters are irrelevant to the Spring Quarter sales of iPads. . . but HE doesn't tell anyone that. He is like the magician who is misdirecting the audience from what he doesn't want you to see. Same for the other chart. . . He hides the uptick by obliterating it by showing it in an in appropriate chart of ALL iPads sold cumulatively sold since the iPad was released. The Y axis is the TOTAL OF ALL SOLD! That Y axis represents over 400 million iPads so 15 million on that small a scale will not mean much, especially when represented by a LINE chart. Adrian Kingsley-Hughes is an artist at obfuscating the data.

You are right, facts are facts, but there is an art in making positives sound BAD. . . and Adrian Kingsley-Hughes is a master at manufacturing and exaggerating FUD out of good news facts for Apple. He has been doing it for years.

47 posted on 08/02/2017 3:38:20 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: TexasGator

You don’t like Apple, so why are you here? Don’t you have a life?


48 posted on 08/02/2017 3:42:22 PM PDT by Chgogal (Sessions recused himself for shaking an Ambassador's hand. Shameful!)
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To: angry elephant
Will buy another iPad mini when the 5 comes out.
Are you aware of the reports that Apple may be considering dropping the iPad Mini after the current model?
49 posted on 08/02/2017 3:44:10 PM PDT by doc11355
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To: Sans-Culotte

I’ve had a kindle 8.9HDX for almost 3 years. I wish they still made them. It’s incredible. Graphics are great and it lasts for at least 12 hours.


50 posted on 08/02/2017 3:56:50 PM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: TexasGator
$1200!!!!!!!!!!! Really?

There is no evidence that Apple is going to have a $1200 iPhone. That was some ANAL-Cyst's made up rumor based on something he pulled out of his navel.

Ask yourself a very logical question: if Apple can produce a 13.2" iPad Pro for $799, and the maxed out version with cellular is $1229, why do you think that a 5.5" iPhone would ever cost 50% more than that $799 base iPad Pro? Apple has historically maintained the price point on its flagship phones around the same price.

Right now the iPhone 7plus is $769, the smaller 7 is just $649. I'd expect the new iPhone when it comes out to be close in price to those.

51 posted on 08/02/2017 4:00:53 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie
I used the Facetime feature a little, and streamed some music with it. But you can't plug in an SD card or a USB cable. You can't load your own music on it (I'm told there is a way which requires jumping through hoops).

All false statements. As is the rest of your claims. Why didn't you sell it when it was still worth something?

Putting your own music on the iPad is easy, no hoops more than loading your music into iTunes from a CD. You select what you want on your iPad and send it to the iPad using the included USB cable with the iTunes software. Done.

Perhaps, because you did not bother to upgrade your iPad in a timely manner, you might need to go now to the Apple Store, but I sincerely doubt it. It is old, now, but still useable. Frankly, Gov, you don't know what you are talking about because you never bothered to learn how to use your iPad. YOU listened to the propaganda, instead of bothering to try and use it.

52 posted on 08/02/2017 4:07:59 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: murron
I don’t think I’m running business apps. I only use it for personal use. I see no problem with the display. Like someone replied to me, a $400 difference in price makes it worth my while.

The 8" iPad mini has 2048-by-1536 resolution at 326 pixels per inch screen. . . and sells for $399. Much faster and much better in color and resolution. Better cameras, video, all around. Not the iPad Pro, but less expensive and smaller. Just about the same weight as your Amazon, but with all metal body instead of plastic.

53 posted on 08/02/2017 4:25:11 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

The problem with the iPad over the years is that it is too good. I have an iPad 3 that there is no reason for me to replace.


54 posted on 08/02/2017 4:30:50 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper (Liberty, when it begins to take root, is a plant of rapid growth. - George Washington)
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To: PAR35
It looks like they sell a lot more of them for Russian Christmas (1st Quarter) than they do for Western Christmas (4th Quarter) or back to school (3rd Quarter).

You are confused because you haven't done your homework to understand the facts.

Apple runs its financial books on FISCAL quarters not CALENDAR quarters. Apple's Fiscal quarters do not coincide with the Calendar Quarters as Apple's Fiscal Year ends at 5:00 PM on the last Saturday of September.

Thus, Apple's first Fiscal Quarter runs from 5:00 PM on the last Saturday of September until 5:00PM on the last Saturday of December, at which tick of the clock the second Fiscal Quarter begins, which runs until 5PM of the last Saturday of March, when the third Fiscal Quarter starts, and runs until the last Saturday of June at 5:00PM,when the fourth and last Fiscal Quarter begins and ends, again when the Fiscal Year ends at 5:00PM on the last Saturday of September.

Therefore, your conclusions about which Calendar Quarter those huge holiday and back to school sales occurred is off by a quarter due to wrong assumptions.

55 posted on 08/02/2017 4:51:04 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Inyo-Mono

They sold enough to build a spaceship office building.


56 posted on 08/02/2017 4:56:23 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: minnesota_bound

That’s what I have read, I really like mine.


57 posted on 08/02/2017 5:11:45 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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To: Textide
Here's a chart from a few years ago about the rise of the Phablet (phones larger than 4 inch width). May have something to do with it. Larger screens on phones reduce the demand for full size tablets.


These are Calendar Quarters being represented in this chart.

In Quarter 4 2012, Apple had just introduced the 5" diagonal iPhone, so iOS users found a way to buy a larger iPhone they liked. In 2014, the 5.5" iPhone 6 plus appeared and the iPad was cannibalized by the sale of the larger phablet iPhones. A lot of people so no reason to buy two devices. Some of us with failing eyesight (at least until we got our lenses replaced and got back our 20/20 vision) still bought the larger screen iPads.

58 posted on 08/02/2017 5:11:54 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Inyo-Mono

I love the ipad.


59 posted on 08/02/2017 5:52:51 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: doc11355; angry elephant
Are you aware of the reports that Apple may be considering dropping the iPad Mini after the current model?

Are you aware that was another ANAL-cysts made up rumor essayed during the FUD season leading up to the Financial Conference Call . . . a rumor that has no basis in fact except for the Bally-button lint the Anal-cyst based his conclusions on? Apple does not reveal its future product plans. . . and considering that the iPad mini is one of their better selling products, I kind of doubt it will be one they will drop.

His argument was that since the $399 iPad mini is more expensive than the 9.7 inch new iPad at $329, customers were inevitably going to opt for the lower priced but bigger regular iPad. He could not conceive that perhaps Apple would reprice the iPad mini when they refresh it.

Time will tell.

Incidentally, Apple's is selling refurb iPad Mini's for as low as $279 with same as new warranties.

60 posted on 08/02/2017 5:53:00 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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