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FR is nearly unusable
7/29/2017 | self

Posted on 07/29/2017 3:33:27 PM PDT by djf

Sorry I have to say this. But FR has become nearly unusable these days.

You used to have a feeling that within 30 seconds to a minute, your page would be resolved and loaded.

But no more. I don't know how many times lately, I have hit refresh or picked a new thread only to wait and wait and wait and then I give up and go to another site.

The powers that be recommend limiting your window options to twenty. My reply is, if that's the problem, the just taking the option away and making it twenty should be the solution.

And I know about DOS attacks - they can easily be filtered by a front-end server - so that shouldn't be a problem.

Anyways, whatever it is, it's getting series. And Hugh!


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: awhinnersopus; dosattacks; excuses; frdosattacks; freespeechattack; frproblems; timetofacereality; unusable; whiner
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To: Yaelle

I don’t understand. I wish there was a magic wand I could wave that would get rid of this ongoing DOS attack, but I don’t know of one. And John hasn’t found one either, but he’s still trying.


181 posted on 07/29/2017 7:10:14 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyranThank you very much, ts is obedience to God!)
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To: Boomer

The technical problem comes from the attitude problem because the Robinsons won’t listen to good advice.


182 posted on 07/29/2017 7:12:29 PM PDT by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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To: djf
Did you perform a trace route? That's the easiest way to see if there is a bottleneck between yourself and the site you are going to. Assuming you are on Windows, call up a command prompt and enter:

tracert www.freerepublic.com

Wait. You'll see a list of hops between yourself and the destination. If you see a lot of * instead of time indications, that's a good indication that there is problems with that segment of the internet route. (Think of it as freeway construction). Could be because of down equipment or unusually high volume of traffic-- lots of reasons.

183 posted on 07/29/2017 7:12:54 PM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel (a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: Jim Robinson
Well, if I improve my attitude, do you think the DOS attackers will leave us alone? Or do you think a like button will solve the problem? Maybe if I throw in some sugar-coated emoticons?

I sense your frustration as well. Near as I can tell; your attitude is just fine other than the reluctance to update/upgrade. I personally could care less about emoji's but the like button is valuable because it's a quick easy way to say "Nice Post" or "Good Post". It also cuts down on posts being made just to say that. Plus it's the standard in the industry. Those things are far secondary to having the built in formatting options using buttons rather than html code manually.

184 posted on 07/29/2017 7:12:57 PM PDT by Boomer (I'm offended by political correctness.)
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To: Boomer

The FR forum software is brilliant. That’s the tragedy of FR.


185 posted on 07/29/2017 7:14:05 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: djf

Been here for more years than I can count...FR has ran almost flawlessly for most of that time...I’m not giving up on them...


186 posted on 07/29/2017 7:14:13 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Jim Robinson

Why not answer my lost


187 posted on 07/29/2017 7:14:23 PM PDT by advertising guy
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To: djf

Thought it might be a problem with my carrier.


188 posted on 07/29/2017 7:15:08 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Boomer

If the problem is a massive reoccurring DOS attack, is there software and/or hardware available to ward it off? Or is the only defense just to have a massive amount of bandwidth and equipment to handle it without a major slowdown.

I’m just asking — just a forum user (and $$ contributor) trying hard to understand how you can avoid and/or handle such an attack. I agree with JimRob that the cloud may not be the way to go because then you are in the hands of others who may control your fate. So the question boils down to software and hardware to foil the attackers.


189 posted on 07/29/2017 7:15:58 PM PDT by CedarDave (Proud member of Hillary's Deplorables class of 2016.)
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To: advertising guy

Post


190 posted on 07/29/2017 7:16:35 PM PDT by advertising guy
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To: djf

The new security must be doing some of this.


191 posted on 07/29/2017 7:16:58 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Iscool
"FR has ran..."

Thanks, genius.

192 posted on 07/29/2017 7:17:25 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: djf
I've kind of had it myself and wondering what my monthly contributions are paying for. Have been considering pulling them for a while and come to think of it I'm going to.

I don't demand that Jim reveal why he does things the way he does, And he doesn't demand that I view the site or make contributions ... so I will stop making contributions.

It's not that Free Republic is not valuable, it's that I do not see how FR needs my money to support it because it doesn't seem to be being spent on supporting the site, so I have to assume it's not. The technology to support an all-text site that makes a few calls to a database is not that expensive nor rocket science. Some very simple caching would be even cheaper but I assume that's a known fact.

So until I know something different, I think I'll cancel what (not all that much - not making myself out to be a hero) I was giving monthly.

And if anyone has intelligent commentary on that ... I'm totally open. I just don't think FR needs my money. Not asking for a balance sheet ... but something just doesn't add up to me. Happy for someone to explain to me how it adds up.

193 posted on 07/29/2017 7:18:07 PM PDT by tinyowl (A is A)
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To: Jim Robinson; Jane Long; StarsandStripesFOREVER

The DOS attacks come at regular, POLITICAL intervals.

I don’t believe it’s Jim’s fault, it is that this is an incredible resource for conservative discourse that inspires the attack.

(The Enemy of free speech and the Enemy of the body of Christ are one in the same, IMHO)


194 posted on 07/29/2017 7:20:29 PM PDT by Sontagged (Lord Jesus: please expose, unveil and then frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised...)
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To: Catmom

Thanks. BTW, of all the complainers on this thread, you’re one of the few who actually appreciated FR enough in the past to be a regular donor. And I appreciate that very much. Sorry you have lost confidence in us. We’ve held this system together for almost twenty-one years now. Had some good times, had some rough times, but have always managed to eventually fix whatever was broke and continue on. And I’m sure this little problem will also appear in our rear view mirror eventually and we’ll be trucking merrily along. Just wishing it could be sooner.


195 posted on 07/29/2017 7:21:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyranThank you very much, ts is obedience to God!)
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To: Yardstick
The FR forum software is brilliant. That’s the tragedy of FR.

And as I said before; there's a way to make everyone happy with the option of using this classic look or an improved up to date format. Win win for everyone. But as Jim said; figuring out a way to stop this dang DoS problem is priority number one.

196 posted on 07/29/2017 7:22:43 PM PDT by Boomer (I'm offended by political correctness.)
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To: Boomer

We all love FR and we love and respect Jim. It kills me that this site doesn’t live up to its potential. At some point you have to start complaining.


197 posted on 07/29/2017 7:27:52 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Boomer
But as Jim said; figuring out a way to stop this dang DoS problem is priority number one.

If it is indeed a DOS attack, it seems that you don't have an answer to that either. Just updating it as you have suggested doesn't sound like it would solve an underlying problem like a DOS attack.

198 posted on 07/29/2017 7:31:54 PM PDT by CedarDave (Proud member of Hillary's Deplorables class of 2016.)
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To: Yardstick

You’re correct...
This Really Sucks.
And it pisses Me Off
To think some pajama boy
Is laughing His add off
That you and I can’t even mix it up!
But boy if I could.. I’d piss off everybody that’s passed Off!


199 posted on 07/29/2017 7:35:01 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Yaelle

Maybe, maybe not.

I loathe FaceCrook anyway but, the larger point is there are ways to mitigate this craptastic performance and many of us are willing pony up extra loot and be done with it.

For many of us, a site which performs reliably and consistently would enable us to grow the Freeper community and be an ever bigger influence in conservative, religious and useless meme issues.

And 9600 Freepers on FaceCrook is not a small number of dissatisfied FR members.

Today, that is 3% over time that will become 5%, then 10%.

Once we attrit 15% it will keep going.

I like our little community but, I and a few others have implored JR to multi home this on separate VM shared servers.

That is how modern sites do it precisely to avoid this crap.

It’s called business process outsourcing and it’s purpose is to be the specialist at keeping a website up and running , while the owner of a website manages the content.


200 posted on 07/29/2017 7:35:54 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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