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Lt. Gen. John Kelly, who lost son to war, says U.S. largely unaware of sacrifice
Freerepublic ^ | 2 Mar 2011 | Greg Jaffe

Posted on 07/29/2017 8:05:12 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

"Please don't mention my son," he asked the Marine Corps officer introducing him.

Four days earlier, 2nd Lt. Robert M. Kelly , 29, had stepped on a land mine while leading a platoon of Marines in southern Afghanistan. He was killed instantly.

At 6:10 a.m. on Nov. 9, Gen. Joseph F. Dunford Jr., one of Kelly's oldest and dearest friends, rang the doorbell at his home in the Washington Navy Yard. The instant Kelly saw Dunford, dressed in his service uniform, he knew Robert was dead.

His wife, Karen, was still asleep. "I then did the most difficult thing I've done in my life," Kelly said. "I walked upstairs, woke Karen to the news and broke her heart."

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: genkelly; usmc
Please take the time to read this homage to young Lt Kelly, his father Gen Kelly and his Marines. From 2011.

Yes you need to give a click to the W.P. to read. Don't sweat the small shite.

1 posted on 07/29/2017 8:05:12 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I’m told only about 2% of the population are in the military or a military associated family.

Most people I encounter have no idea what it involves, how long the hours are, how demanding it can be or much of anything else about it.


2 posted on 07/29/2017 8:11:08 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

so true about America not realizing the sacrifice that those in the armed forces make along with there family members. I suggest to anyone that wants a good cry and to feel good at the same time to go to YouTube and search for family’s welcoming home solders. it is a little voyeuristic but there is nothing like seeing the reaction of the under the age of 12 groups to dad or mom coming home from a long deployment.


3 posted on 07/29/2017 8:12:32 AM PDT by PCPOET7
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To: Sequoyah101

But at about this time last year, the Media Wing of the Party of Government was giving wall to wall coverage of Khan.


4 posted on 07/29/2017 8:12:55 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("If I had to go to war again, I'd bring lacrosse players" Conn Smythe)
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To: Sequoyah101

possibly...

When I was in during Nam about 10% of the population were veterans...

its got to be a lot lower now...


5 posted on 07/29/2017 9:45:43 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: DUMBGRUNT
"I then did the most difficult thing I've done in my life," Kelly said. "I walked upstairs, woke Karen to the news and broke her heart."

Ditto. I said the same thing after I had to do it. My wife screamed at the top of her lungs. Over and over and over...

6 posted on 07/29/2017 10:13:17 AM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: USMCPOP

That’s heartbreaking.


7 posted on 07/29/2017 10:35:54 AM PDT by steel_resolve (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: USMCPOP

The mothers know, I think it is written in their heart.
The Marine Moms Online, know first despite official efforts to notify the parents first.

8 April 2006, a Marine friend was hit, our son was with him.
The moms knew something bad had happened, but not what.

The mother called my wife about her son, I heard my wife screaming.
I ran into the room she was crying and said it was Philip, her friend’s son.

Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.


8 posted on 07/29/2017 11:19:01 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (GO TRUMP!)
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To: Sequoyah101
I’m told only about 2% of the population are in the military or a military associated family.

I had a squad Sgt. that was killed in the same firefight I was wounded during Tet '68. It always troubled me that when they were able to get the KIA/WIA out after about 8 hours that they loaded us up on troop slicks not medivac ships and I got the poncho they drug me out on dumped on top of his body on the floor of the slick and I never forgot the ride to 93rd evac hospital face to face with the sarge. Years later on my brigade message board was a post from a guy looking for anything about his older brother. All he had was a telegraph from the Army stating his brother was killed by shrapnel from hostile fire and the province. He was beside himself 35 years after his brother was killed trying to get any information. Long story short, I explained how I knew his brother, how he served with me, how he died and the fact he had someone with him that knew him on his last Air Mobile mission off the battlefield. It's heartwrenching to know how little the families were told of their loved ones deaths and I was glad to lift some weight off the Sarges little brother. He asked for and I sent him battlefield photos from the brigade HQ as that battle was well chronicled along with a photo from the brigade HQ memorial hallway with his brothers name engraved so every man in the brigade today walking thru HQ sees his brothers name. The memory of that chopper ride staring into his once vibrant face now still and waxen stays with me today 49 years later. The family survivors of the fallen require closure that they rarely get.
9 posted on 07/29/2017 11:42:11 AM PDT by redcatcherb412
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To: Sequoyah101

Most liberals I know think they are all stupid or brainwashed.


10 posted on 07/29/2017 11:55:37 AM PDT by Seruzawa (FABOL)
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To: Sequoyah101
Most people I encounter have no idea what it involves, how long the hours are, how demanding it can be or much of anything else about it.

No joke. Telling some of my friends/extended family about it, they have no idea. I'm in a Guard unit, so we get paid a little better (daily rate), but even then. An E5 with 10 years in makes about $1500 for our 2-week annual training (brand new privates are right around half of these numbers). Just under $110 a day. You probably average a 10-12 hour day of stuff while you're there, though some days you'll go from 06 in the morning, until midnight or so. Maybe later if you're doing night ops or any training requiring darkness to conduct. A 17-18 hour day means you're getting paid the equivalent of about $6/hr. (That's $3/hr for the brand new privates.) As fun as it is, sometimes it rather sucks!
11 posted on 07/29/2017 11:59:19 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: Seruzawa

For the most part I can tell them that they are dead wrong.

We all know most do it out of duty, pride and loyalty to each other. For the last 8 years they have done it in spite of the CiC.


12 posted on 07/29/2017 2:35:11 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Thank you for posting this.

And thanks to President Trump, for having enough humility to bring on board of man of such high integrity. This might be his best appt yet (maybe a tie with Gen Mattis).


13 posted on 07/29/2017 3:31:00 PM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: USMCPOP

Words are so inadequate - but our condolences to you and your family. We are indeed grateful for your son’s service.


14 posted on 07/29/2017 3:36:08 PM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: Sequoyah101

About a year before my son was killed, he wrote on some forum:

Posted - 01/04/2004 : 22:14:48

Chao: Define, “people in uniform”

I serve part time in the Marines, in a combat role no less, and if the $#!7 hits the fan, I’ll be one of the first on the line to die. I’m an E-2, so I don’t get paid jack-squat either. And technology? My issued M16A2 rifle was built by Colt and has a very low serial number, and Colt lost the contract to build M16’s for the US government to FN Manufacturing in 1988....

Hey, I agree that the “suits” who run gigantic corporate enterprises that make cutting-edge technology are more interested in money than the well-being of mankind, and frankly it disturbs me that wealth and power are becoming one. I know that sounds wierd for someone studying engineering, but I’m also buddhist, so wealth and materialism is pretty darned low on my priority list anyway.

One thing keeps popping up in my mind though... a couple years ago I swore an oath, that I would “...support and defend the Constitution of the United states against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same...”

I didn’t join up to be part of some government conspiracy—I joined because I thought it was just one small way that I could contribute to the people of this country... although the discipline didn’t hurt much either. As I think back to that oath, something about all enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC... I wonder who is really to blame for the degredation of the American society.

My money’s on the American mass media. It seems like you can’t turn on the news without seeing news reports about the death and destruction, and commercials that seem to subtlely induce worthlessness or fear, offering solace in the consumption of goods and services. The way I see it, people in this country (and the attitude is spreading across the globe), are encouraged by corporations and broadcasters to spend more and acquire more stuff, inducing a sense of security in material wealth. Some things, even tradition, can have a spin put on them to make the public needlessly wary—even fearful. Why aren’t houses in this country built with big front porches anymore? Probably because we know more about fictional TV characters than we do our own neighbors....

Though I think this veritable brainwashing may not have been intentional, the people who cultivate this sort of society have a lot of the general public in their pocket, and many are trying to use their positions to reshape the world the way they think it should be, not taking into account any consequence of their actions.

Given a choice and an opportunity, I’d gladly do my part to “restructure” the commercial institutions that poison the society whose flag will one day be draped over my coffin. [/rant]

Country: Iraq ~ Posts: 175 ~ Member Since: 09/01/2003 ~ Last Visit: 01/11/2005

He was 19 years old when he wrote that.


15 posted on 07/30/2017 2:23:54 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: USMCPOP

12 years ago and the ontly thing that has changed since he wrote this is that ithas become worse.

We are nothing but a plotocracy / corporatocracy. A government by the people led by people for sale to the highest bidder who become elites and none come out of office less than multi millionaires on $175K or so a year. It is truly a miracle isn’t it? Somehow people who behave as if they don’t have enough sense to pour pi$$ out of a boot and claim to spend all their time either “serving” us or raising campaign funds can be expert stock and investment pickers. I wonder how it is done?

They couldn’t have carried water for your 19 year-old son.


16 posted on 07/30/2017 7:12:09 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

The thread title reminded me of my late mother telling me about many homes that had a star in the window in her town during WWII and how sad it was every time a new star appeared somewhere.


17 posted on 07/30/2017 8:33:17 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Climate Change: The Imminent Crisis That Never Arrives and the gravy train that never ends.)
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