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Fakes News ^ | 07-11-2017 | AAABEST

Posted on 07/11/2017 10:32:06 AM PDT by AAABEST

Honestly have tried to watch them lately as well as listen over XM while driving, but they turn my stomach so I just turn them off. Cannot watch or listen to them any longer, in any capacity whatsoever. The place is run by Never-Trumpers, hence is just lousy with Never-Trumpers spouting their BS from morning until night. Still Russia, Russia, Russia 24/7, on the scroll, on the shows, out of their mouths.

As if to show utter contempt for everyone and anyone who voted for The President of the United States of America - they even give Never-Trumpers their own shows. Nasty Bushoid (insert c-word here) Perino and slobbering Me-Again-Kelly-Protégé Stirewalt have an entire hour together to act out as dire concern trolls.

Who watches that crap and who is making business these decisions? Who thinks listening to opinionated, hostile, establishment, metropolis-goers is news? You people suck at your jobs. Those of industriously trying to harm the elected president, simply suck at being Americans.

Oh and Mr. Baier, sorry to say, you’re just done sir. Remember that little torpedo who had with you during the debates? You only get one shot at credibility. You blew yours.

What Fox is doing is no better than CNN – therefore it would be good for all of us pray they suffer the same fate. “Oh but what about the good ones?” If there are any “good ones” left (the Doocys and a few others come to mind) they should see the writing on the wall.

The good news is that this going to get worked out on its own. Anyone with school-aged kids will tell you, they don’t even watch TV anymore, must less cable news. I see YouTube shows with 10 times the viewership of Fox.

I don’t see how they get past that.


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To: AAABEST
I cut the cable a year ago so my info might be dated but Fox Business was vastly better then Fox News at news. I'd be willing to bet Fox Business is still vastly better then Fox News.

Maria is great

41 posted on 07/11/2017 1:28:10 PM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: Feckless

Stopped watching Fox News Sunday some time ago, Wallace is turning into his Commie old man.


He sure is. So totally unbearable!


42 posted on 07/11/2017 1:32:40 PM PDT by DefeatCorruption
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To: Hawthorn

It’s the fact of the matter. Many were complaining about it, even here, at the time.


43 posted on 07/11/2017 1:41:19 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: AAABEST

OAN! Not nearly as many commercials.


44 posted on 07/11/2017 1:48:48 PM PDT by Herman Ball (2)
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To: AAABEST
Didn't news reporting used to mean something else?

Like, report the facts and don't express even one opinion?

I just want to know who-what-when-where and why (if why is not an opinion).

Opinion should be a separate show so labeled.

45 posted on 07/11/2017 1:56:39 PM PDT by donna (Pretending to know the First Lady? Mika is a social-climber.)
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To: AAABEST

Fox lost me when they hired the Harf blond from the state dept.
Shit for brains doesn’t begin to tell the story.


46 posted on 07/11/2017 3:08:40 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (President Trump makes obammy look like the punk he is.)
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To: AAABEST

Hannity is still doing a great job for the good side.


47 posted on 07/11/2017 3:11:09 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: CivilWarBrewing

That is not ghetto English. Using Sh as S is simply regional, from NY area.

There are a lot of great accents and pronunciations in this country. That’s just one.


48 posted on 07/11/2017 3:13:13 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: TBP

>> It’s the fact of the matter. Many were complaining about it, even here, at the time <

Consistency is not required around here.


49 posted on 07/11/2017 5:07:20 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: TBP
Absolute balogney. EVERY news channel, including Fox, and even some non-political ones, showed Trump's speeches and then spent the next 2 hours criticizing it, calling him all kinds of names, calling it a circus, etc - including Fox. A handful of Fox personalities become Trumpers after he locked up the nomination but even then the majority did not want Trump to win - their faces were not happy on election night (although certainly less sad than CNN and MSNBC).

The vast, vast majority of never Trumpers are Neo-cons - eg: Neo Cons try to make peace with "unfit" president. McCain, Kristol, Bush II, Boot, Rove, etc - all neo-cons that hate Trump.

And while the AHCA is a bad bill, it is still much better than the ACA and given the current makeup of the Senate, your choices are either ACA or AHCA (or even closer to ACA than AHCA) for the meantime.

50 posted on 07/12/2017 5:49:57 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: rb22982

You’e simply wrong. You’re not telling the truth. Most of the Fox people were promoting Trump during the primaries. Megyn Kelly wasn’t (one reason she’s no longer there), and O’Reilly studiously tried to stay neutral but did detailed coverage every time Trump coughed, usually favorable. Hannity was in the tank, still is, and most of the others (Bolling, Guilfoyle, Baier, etc.) were highly partisan Trumpers from the beginning. Most of their panelists were at lest soft Trumpers.

The other channels didn’t carry every moment of every Trump rally unfiltered the way Fox did. And it was very hard for any other candidate to get time on Fox. It was noticed by many people. Go back through the threads from the primaries. Many of us were noting this phenomenon at the time.

As to “The vast, vast majority of never Trumpers are Neo-cons”, that’s just not so. While there is that branch — and you cite many of them — there were also the people who despise neocon RINOs even more than Trumpers do, but saw Trump as a progressive: Lowry and the National Review crowd, Beck, Ben Shapiro, Mike Lee, Ben Sasse, other conservatives of that ilk who are anything but neocons, but also could not bring themselves to vote for Trump for entirely different reasons. (Many, unlike the neocons, have been fairly supportive of the President these days, although not universally so and obviously not on everything.)

Sasse and Lee are two of only three Senators with lifetime 100 percent ratings from ACU. (The other, FTR, is Ted Cruz, whom many FReepers seem to want to oust.)

AHCA is absolutely NOT “much better than the ACA.’ It isn’t repeal or replacement, simply a little tinkering around the edges of 0bamacare. All major features of 0bamacare remain in place. THAT IS NOT WHAT REPUBLICANS PROMISED US, and for Trump to throw his weight behind that is disappointing. Get a better bill.

Even if we can’t get full repeal (which passed both houses at least once and went to the Oval Office, where Zero killed it), at least get a better bill than either AHCA or the even-worse Senate monstrosity. The Cruz compromise looks like it might be promising, and it moves further away from 0bamacare than either the House or Senate bill. I haven’t seen President Trump say one word in support of something along those lines, but he pushed hard for the AHCA disaster.

Or why not the Sasse solution, which President Trump tweeted support for? — repeal now, replace later. It was great that the president endorsed that, and most of the so-called “Never Trump” people praised him for it (and for many other things.)

Further, as the author of “The Art of the Deal” must know, you begin any negotiation by asking for EVERYTHING — or at lest much more than you are expecting to get — and you throw away certain things (that perhaps weren’t that important anyway) to get a good deal, even if it’s an imperfect compromise. But when you start with the compromise position (i.e., AHCA), all you do is negotiate your way to something worse than that (i.e., the Senate monstrosity.)

You Ever Trumpers who blindly support anything he says and does, even things you would have opposed from President McCain or President Romney, amuse me.

It’s not about “defending your guy” at all costs — it’s about getting our ideas enacted as much as we can. President Trump has been very helpful on that is a number of areas but not helpful in some others. When he is moving our principles forward, it’s our job to back him up as strongly as we can. But when he’s backing things that undermine our principles,it’s our job to oppose that — again, as strongly as we can.

There are too many in the media who just oppose the President automaticlly, and a smaller number (although many) who support him automatically (and blindly.) Most people fall into neither camp, and I think that is the right position to hold.


51 posted on 07/12/2017 9:38:48 AM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: TBP

TLDR but you are definitely wrong.


52 posted on 07/12/2017 9:47:45 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: rb22982

No, I am right. You refuse to do anything except keep repeating your assertions over and over. But the facts and the evidence don’t support you.

You seem to think that anyone who doesn’t just automatically echo Trump’s position on ever single thing is completely anti-Trump. Not so.

As I said before, go back and check the threads at the time. You’ll see that I am correct.


53 posted on 07/12/2017 9:51:27 AM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: TBP
You don't have facts, but your own personal experience watching the stations. I have my facts with my own personal experience watching the stations. Your opinion is not a fact any more than mine is.

You seem to think that anyone who doesn’t just automatically echo Trump’s position on ever single thing is completely anti-Trump. Not so.

I can quite surely say I have never said that. I simply said the vast majority of never-trumpers are neo-cons and that is a fact. I think the ACHA bill is horrible but what we had pre-aca was also horrible. Healthcare costs in the United States once the government (~1960) got involved with Medicare, later Medicaid and then banning reportation, not enforcing the sherman anti-trust act and not enforcing pricing disclosures have gone up 8-10% annually for ~60 years straight. The ACA didn't change that and neither will the ACHA. The system was on track to crash the US government and the economy in 20-30 years pre ACA and is still on track to do it post ACA. I have no problem with your position on the ACHA, but its not Trump that is responsible for it - it's the Snowes and McCain's of the world that are. Maybe Trump should just veto in principal and let the ACA exchange die off but that still doesn't get rid of the taxes or the massive expansion of medicaid.

54 posted on 07/12/2017 9:58:57 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: TBP

Baier,


With all due respect, IMHO Baier was not pro Trump...I had to stop watching his show due to his anti-Trump bias...


55 posted on 07/12/2017 10:31:08 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out - D. Horowitz)
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To: TBP

And last night after Hannity’s show with Donald Trump Jr. interview, there was special show, Specialists “After Dark,” with a whole panel of people on that were anti-Trump Junior!!! Frankly with the exception of Bolling, who was playing neutral host, none of them were pro-Trump at all.

Disgusting!!


56 posted on 07/12/2017 10:35:00 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out - D. Horowitz)
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To: TBP

During the primaries and much of the general election campaign, Fox was totally in the tank for Trump. Whenever he spoke, they pre-empted programming to carry every word. Other candidates could barely get brief interviews. Several of the personalities were or are complete Trumpkins.
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Seems to me that during the primaries, they were first in the tank for Rubio and then Cruz...I could only watch Hannity and sometimes O’Reilly.

Were we watching the same station?


57 posted on 07/12/2017 10:38:25 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out - D. Horowitz)
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