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I find it most interesting that, after years of complaints (from iFixit as well as anti-Apple sources) that MacBooks had become impossible to upgrade or repair, Microsoft has finally seen the wisdom of making thin laptops that are rendered mechanically stable by making them non-upgradeable/non-repairable -- that is, by soldering everything in place.

No question that it is a PITA for the customer who later decides they'd like more memory or more storage -- or worst, whose battery gives out and they can't replace it themselves.

But overall, I think Microsoft has Done The Right Thing with the Surface Laptop, and despite iFixit's complaints, I believe it will be a solid product.

1 posted on 06/18/2017 7:29:38 AM PDT by dayglored
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iFixit tears down the Surface Laptop -- and has a lot of trouble! ... PING!

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2 posted on 06/18/2017 7:30:24 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

Sad. Being “open” is what differentiated wintel computers from Apples. I will stick with Dell.


4 posted on 06/18/2017 7:35:54 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dayglored
We hates it! We wants to reseat
and/or upgrade preciousssss parts!

5 posted on 06/18/2017 7:36:11 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: dayglored
in other words, it's disposable...
6 posted on 06/18/2017 7:39:01 AM PDT by Chode (My job is not to represent the world. My job is to represent the United States of America-#45 DJT)
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To: dayglored

So if the memory or hard drive dies they can’t be replaced and a $2000 machine goes in the trash.


8 posted on 06/18/2017 7:46:11 AM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: dayglored

Pretty amazing. We’ve gone from mainframes with full time maintenance staff to laptops you throw away like a Bic lighter when they break.


9 posted on 06/18/2017 7:46:57 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: dayglored

Just as they have always meant to be. Computers are disposable.

How else can we get you to buy another one?


10 posted on 06/18/2017 7:47:19 AM PDT by Delta 21
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To: dayglored

I have two exact batteries for my laptop, one lasts for over 3 hours the other for 30 minutes.
would really suck to buy a Surface with the latter battery installed in it...


13 posted on 06/18/2017 8:03:17 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: dayglored

Not me. This would be absolutely unacceptable to me. If I would consider a Microsoft laptop in the first place, this would be a deal breaker for me. What Apple’s doing with the on-board SSD’s doesn’t work for me either, so it’s not a Microsoft hate thing.


15 posted on 06/18/2017 8:41:41 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: dayglored

This will really amplify the bloat ware automatic upgrades. Accelerated obsolescence for profit.

Micro$oft has always been an empire of graft and corruption. Wouldn’t it he nice if their R&D department was focused on inventing product instead of screwing the customer for every penny he has.

The only logical choice is third party laptops. I replaced the cooling fan twice on my Acer and wore out 3 keyboards before it was too slow to endure. But then I was on my laptop constantly.

If you buy a car that is too cool and too pretty that breaks down too early and can’t be repaired it’s called a lemon.


16 posted on 06/18/2017 8:43:03 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: dayglored

My personal opinion is that it is sinful to make a device that you can’t at least swap out batteries. But then, no one asked me my opinion.


17 posted on 06/18/2017 8:53:31 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: dayglored

I have one laptop that I use for work. Have to have it for travel. (I also have a hand me down tablet that is rarely used.)

Every other computer that I own is a full sized tower with easy access to everything. I like being able to perform my own upgrades and repairs. I buy $400 to $600 systems and build from there.

A $2k diposable computer? I ain’t that stupid.


18 posted on 06/18/2017 9:09:28 AM PDT by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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To: dayglored

You misspelled “unsold product.”


19 posted on 06/18/2017 9:11:21 AM PDT by MrEdd (MrEdd)
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To: dayglored

I like Thinkpads. You can download a Hardware Maintenance Manual that tells you how to disassemble the entire thing.


20 posted on 06/18/2017 9:29:54 AM PDT by Pollard (TRUMP 2016)
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To: dayglored

The X2 1012 from HP is their surface pro clone and it’s fully serviceable but it doesn’t mean you should still do it ;-). The parts are so ultra tiny now it’s nearly impossible to get things back together.


23 posted on 06/18/2017 10:09:10 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: dayglored

The auto industry plans to do this with their product someday.

Won’t start?

Buy a new one.


26 posted on 06/18/2017 10:20:51 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Some people consider government to be a necessary evil, others their personal Ponzi scheme.)
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To: dayglored

Funny thing. As Apple has started to become slightly more open and allow more user-repair/upgrading, Microsoft has been doing the exact opposite, turning more into Apple. Sad.


40 posted on 06/19/2017 11:30:10 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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