Uhuh - fortunately the men in the generation of my grandparents who won WWII weren't metrosexualized, hedonistic, "risk analyzing", Pussy's.
Who have millenials had for role model, the Clintons? the generation of "Recreate 68"? - FAIL.
Posted on 05/11/2017 10:20:40 AM PDT by Red Badger
Pair dies less than 1 hour 30 minutes apart
LAKE JACKSON, Texas - After nearly 62 years of marriage, Lake Jackson couple Tom and Delma Ledbetter left this world about two weeks ago.
“Mama was from Nebraska, and daddy was from Arkansas,” said Donetta Nichols.
Nichols is one of the Ledbetters' daughters. She tells us the couple first met in their early 20s through mutual friends.
“He was stationed in Florida and my mother and her girlfriend had moved to Florida,” she said.
Their first date of sorts happened when Tom had to “just move his car.”
“They drove around two, three different blocks or whatever and they came back and they parked and he said he reached over and he grabbed her hand and he said, 'I don't know what made me do it.' He said, 'I just reached over and gave her a kiss on the cheek,'” Nichols said.
Three weeks later, they were married. Two daughters soon followed, then grandchildren and then great-grandchildren. It was a life filled with love and laughter. Then, in April of this year, Delma fell ill and did not recover.
“They couldn't get a pulse. They couldn't get a blood pressure. They couldn't get anything. Yet mama was just hanging on to something,” said Donetta.
A few days later, Tom too fell ill.
“We got him over to the nursing home with Mama. They had pushed their little beds together and Mama was laying right there, facing him. She was asleep and Daddy goes and he reached over there and he grabbed ahold of her hand and he just laid there with her, and it was so sweet,” Nichols said.
Not long after, Tom died. Delma followed, not even an hour and a half later. Their lives ended the same way their relationship began – holding hands.
“I mean, it was exactly how they wanted to go. It couldn't have been any better,” Nichols said.
From hospice to funeral home to final resting place, Tom and Delma didn't leave each other's side. Now, at Restwood Memorial Park, they'll never have to.
Sierra Vista in 1968 though had few places to go or things to do for young servicemen, but anything beat being stuck on base. On base housing for enlisted men was described to be the officers quarters from cavalry days. The house my wife and I were assigned had a trap door in one of the rooms. Never tried to pry it open. Yardwork was done in high cowboy boots as it seemed the rattlesnakes loved being up against the sides of the homes while you were raking or pulling weeds. Was an interesting year.
It’s not an excuse, it’s a statement.
If I had my life to live over it wouldn’t include marriage or children.
I said if by the way...I’m stuck. But hopefully it can make someone else slow down the rush to the alter.
“If I had my life to live over it wouldn’t include marriage or children.”
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I remember years ago either Ann Landers or Abby asked their readers if they would marry if they could start life over.
Much to her astonishment most answered “No !”
It made the news and caused much discussion .
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How old are you? I’m curious as I see a sea change in difference between marriage for somebody born in 1950 and in 1990.
It’s not a question of “who said it was supposed to be easy?”
I think today’s millenials, especially men, are doing a cost benefit analysis. And the potential downside is 1) terrible. 2) 30% to 50% chance of failure....for a first marriage depending on who’s stats you believe.
Are you going to tell these men to just ignore the risks associated with marriage nowadays?
Wow. I’m reminded of a story from years ago, of an old Florida couple trapped in a stalled elevator, both passing from heat stroke.
>>>And I don’t care what you think, because I understand women very well. I’ve taken the Red Pill, like Neo. I avoid the gynocentric Matrix anymore.<<<
Speaking red pill in a forum with women is bound to get women riled up. CrisomTide....let me try to explain baltimorepoet’s position.
1) The system screws men over. Period. Not debatable. Women benefit at the expense of men in family court. Men’s lives by the millions have been ruined.
2) Taking the red pill is just a way of saying you see things for the way they really are between men and women. Some guys need to experience divorce-rape first hand. Others take the red pill as they watch what happens to men around them.
3) After you have taken the red pill, the juice isn’t worth squeeze. Sex isn’t worth the potential liability that comes from dealing with women. If guys who have taken the red pill continue to have sex, they just hook up. They will never shack up or marry.
I’m aware of the “Red Pill theory.” As I stated to that poster, I don’t give a d**n about him or what happens to him.
As I stated to another poster: I agree that, most times, men get the short end of the stick in divorce & custody cases. That needs to change. I don’t fault a man who has suffered that for being wary & distrustful.
By all means, if a man is that bitter, he should not marry or date again. It’s best to be alone than to be with someone and unhappy.
What I was scolding hm for was his psychotic hatred of women. He blames all women for the actions of his ex. In all honesty, after reading his ramblings, I believe that he was at fault just as much as his ex. After all, men do lie.
He, and presumably yourself, believe that all women are the devil & that all men are honest, trustworthy & never screw around. WRONG. This may shock you but not all divorces are the fault of the woman.
This particular poster sounds psychotic. He described how he continuously watched a video of someone burning to death on LiveLink. He watched that video over & over until he felt nothing. Does that sound like someone sane to you?
What makes it worse is that he has two sons. Can you imagine how twisted & disturbed they are?
As I told him, I’m just glad that he doesn’t have a daughter to torture & abuse.
As far as that needing to change. The powers that be have been and appear to continue to pander to women.
I did not read every post from baltimorepoet. I am not sure why anyone would watch somebody burning to death over and over.
As for me, I got divorced bc my ex wasn’t happy. She can EDAD for all I care. Just because her feelings got all sideways I had my life turned upside down, my kids had their lives turned upside down and there was absolutely nothing I could do to stop it. What gives a man or woman the right to ignore the death till you part, or the be faithful part of your wedding vows? Oh yeah our laws....marriage is now a contract between you, the spouse and the state.
I don’t hate women. I got married again, but I went abroad to find a wife. I just refused to be bothered with American women....especially single middle aged American women. I don’t believe women are the devil, but they are risky as hell. My opinion is most of the nice quality women marry off and by middle age guys have slim pickings. Unless the guy is exceptional in attractiveness that is(looks/status/money). My opinion is most guys go into settling mode. Okay I’ll date a fat chick, or okay, I’ll date a woman with kids.
I went abroad and didn’t settle on anything. I did an end run around feminism. I like women, just not feminists. Maybe baltimorepoet feels the same way.
Ideology trumps reality, even when reality changes. That is why Red Pillers call them Blue Pillers.
It is like Plato’s Allegory of the Cave from over 2000 years ago. Plato recognized that people in the Cave would fight back against being pulled out of the Cave into the light, because the Cave is their reality.
It is like in “The Matrix” movie, when they are in the “Construct” and Morpheus points out to Neo that until they take the Red Pill, those people will fight to defend the Matrix.
The problem is, Red Pill men cannot be shamed or guilt tripped into stepping into the bear trap that is Modern Marriage. The Blue Pill will tell you a pile of crap is fudge brownies, but once you take the Red Pill you are not going to eat what you know is a pile of crap, no matter how much anyone tries to guilt trip you into it.
And as far as the long term plan Marxists have to “demoralize” a culture; I knew of such things before. But to get married into this SYSTEM the way it is set up legally is potentially suicide. I’m not going to take a hit for the team and neither will my boys.
Getting married just so the Marxists can’t demoralize this culture reminds me of how George W. Bush was trying to encourage people to go out and spend money to boost the economy. Do you want to know what my response to that was? The opposite. I started cutting expenses, saving money and buying Gold LOL.
I watched 2 videos over and over again, specifically where the poor Jordanian pilot gets burned alive by ISIS, and one where a large Guatemalan mob burns alive a teenage girl for her supposed participation in a crime.
It disturbed me quite a bit at first, but after the 112th time, the Guatemalan mob one didn’t bother me at all. One thing that helped me in the end, was reflecting that the mob was basically ordinary humans, not a group of psychopaths like ISIS.
I decided I needed to not just control my emotions, but end my emotions to remove temptation. My boys for example, are not addicted to vagina, so the don’t need harsh measures like what I did. As it would be, I estimate my sex drive is now less than 1/5 of what it used to be, as a result of my experiments on myself.
I find that I don’t love any of the two girlfriends I’ve had in 2017, I don’t emotionally hate anyone. I don’t get angry. I dropped a hammer on my foot while working on my armory and I didn’t curse like I would have last year. I don’t drink even in moderation like I used to, because there is no logic in it, and it doesn’t feel that good.
I have overall in everyday life, achieved a day to day tranquility that few people will know. I don’t have actual emotional reactions to anything anymore. Everything is just abstract.
For example, I laugh at a joke, but only because I understand the humor intellectually, not because I actually felt anything. Few people notice any change in my behavior over last year. My feelings are gone but I recognize how I WOULD have reacted so I generally mimic how I would have reacted last year.
I don’t hate women. In fact, I don’t think about women very often. They are so generally useless and insignificant to my daily life, that I don’t think much about them, nor consider them worth devoting what little emotional energy I have left.
Women aren’t worth hating. They are only worth ignoring. The opposite of love isn’t hate, it is apathy. And that is what I have: apathy.
That is actually why many Germans and Swedes don’t protect women from the Muslims they invited in. They don’t hate their women; they simply have apathy towards the women.
What happens between Germany women and Muslim men is between just them and not really the business of German men. That is my position as well.
I don’t even really hate feminists. If I saw 20 Muslims gang raping a feminist, I wouldn’t join the gang rape, because of hating women because I don’t hate them. I’d walk away without interfering, because I have apathy.
Now, soon as I got home, I’d get out my SCAR-H and etc in case their attention turned towards me and my own. But that is how I operate: not emotionally, but I simply look around me and calculate whether or not something is a threat to me or my own. Its like what the Terminator does, except I don’t see a red text printout in front of me.
Uhuh - fortunately the men in the generation of my grandparents who won WWII weren't metrosexualized, hedonistic, "risk analyzing", Pussy's.
Who have millenials had for role model, the Clintons? the generation of "Recreate 68"? - FAIL.
>>What I’m saying is you completely ignore the fact that men can’t support a family as a group as easily as was possible fifty years ago.
Bullshyte. My grandad provided for his family during the great depression with a wheelbarrow and cement finishing tools.
Today’s “risk analyzing” pussies can’t event lift a bag of concrete.
>>Today’s “risk analyzing” pussies can’t event lift a bag of concrete.
Today’s “risk analyzing” pussies WON’T event lift a bag of concrete.
Quite right, they won’t.
Good thing there’s no illegal immigrants willing to live in an shack with 20 others and for $4 an hour.
Thank the Chamber of Cuckolds for illegal immigration and outsourcing.
>>Good thing there’s no illegal immigrants willing to live in an shack with 20 others and for $4 an hour.
Shack?
Lived in Santa Ana for a decade. My wife was called there as a Lutheran school teacher.
Saw multiple families living in converted single car garages. Those people worked HARD - and, contrary to some stereotypes, were very emphatic about wanting their children to learn ENGLISH.
I got the impression escaping from the Marxist shyte holes down South was very motivational.
Look Closer.
"Those people are here illegally. They're uneducated, ignorant, and DESERVE to be taken advantage of"
--Manager of Application Support,
--Argent/Ameriquest Mortgage
--Circa March, 2007
>>and outsourcing
Got interlocking “management”?
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Tavant+Ameriquest+Argent
Word around the water cooler was that somewhere in the neighborhood of a half Billion $ got laundered through the ASAP toilet bowl...
Oligarchic Kleptocracy at its finest!
Take a deep look into the “fiscally conthervative” moral cesspool being run by W’s Ambassador to the Netherlands...
https://www.google.com/#q=Boots+cash+mortgage+convicted+border+christopher+warren
There was no shortage of jobs among Christopher Warren’s “risk analyzer” playmates at Ameriquest and elsewhere in the Sub-prime industry.
And the same demoralized systemic corruption is symptomatic in the cultural rejection of marriage in the context of the proliferation of the gender-fluid horseshyte that gets flung in our faces on a daily basis.
NO SALE!
But one problem I see with other Conservatives is that they don’t ask the simple questions, such as WHY does Conservatism keep getting rolled by Feminism decade by decade?
Conservatives are more rational, more moral, more correct, and usually more intelligent than the lib/marxist/feminists.
So why does feminism keep rolling over men?
I’ll tell you why: a fundamental flaw in men. Men tend to be independent and compete with each other for women and women’s approval. The “Bro Code” of “Bro’s before Ho’s” is just a myth. Men will stab other men in the back if they think it will give them an advantage over other men to get p****.
Macron in France and Trudeau are examples of the mangina sub-species of man-backstabbers. Manginas tend to be liberals. The other sub-species of man-backstabbers is the “white knight” — the one that assumes the woman is always the victim. White knights are often conservatives.
Women tend to move in cooperative lock-step to achieve gynocentrism and gynosupremacy. You can even see Conservative women come charging in on the attack when Red Pill men point out Red Pill truth. The few Conservative women you can even get to admit we live in a society where the laws and courts screw over men will then resort to liberal-style poop throwing and personal ad hominem attacks.
I can also explain why “Red Pill” women and “Conservative” women exist, despite having the same drives as feminist women.
Red Pill women (an example being “Feminism LOL” on youtube among others) acknowledge Red Pill knowledge and some attempt to get men to come back into the fold (examples “Anti-Feminist women” organization). If you look at the pathetic comments men post (marry me, LOL) to these women, you might realize that Red Pill women is just an attempt by a group of women to create what marketers call “a market segment” to lure in a specific niche of men. Red Pill women really are the same underneath as other women, they just try to trick men into coming back by pretending to be different.
Traditional conservative women (for example, like my mother) still have the same fundamental drives as feminists, it is just that they are smarter and more rational than feminists, and less likely to kill the goose that lays the golden egg. They want to be the first off of the Titanic when it sinks and see feminists as endangering this but still see men as useful commodities. My mother is 71 and has little to gain by dumping my retired dad. So complain though she will (especially behind his back), she is rational enough to recognize she has few good alternatives.
Feminists themselves breakdown into different categories. You have your Hillary and Merkel types, that are old and shriveled, and say stupid stuff like “women have always suffered the most in war”.
Then you have your young millennial feminists, such as seen in Germany and Sweden holding “Welcome Migrant” banners. Those feminists know on some level that when their country is conquered, a lot of men will just be lined up against a wall and shot, while the women will just do as most women have always done and spread their legs for the Alpha male barbarian conquerors.
Isn’t it a great world we live in? ROTFLMAO.
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