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Give high schoolers the right to vote — young people need a voice in government
NY DAILY NEWS ^ | May 5, 2017 | ELI FRANKELFriday

Posted on 05/05/2017 9:26:27 AM PDT by EinNYC

Political and social activism is surging in America. Protest groups are springing up across the country. Concerned citizens are marching in the streets to support science, women's rights, justice and immigration. Congressional offices are flooded with calls from constituents.

And much of the renewed political and social activity is being carried out by high school students — many of them committed and informed activists, yet still too young to vote.

It is time to give those students a voice in government.

That’s the goal of the New York Young Voter Act, a bill the Youth Progressive Policy Group is pushing with the support of Assemblyman Robert Carroll (D–Brooklyn) and State Sen. Brad Hoylman (D–Manhattan). The bill — A.6839/S.5646, if you want to look it up — would lower the voting age in New York State to 17 in all local and statewide elections. It would also improve the high school curriculum by bolstering nuts-and-bolts civic education with lessons on the history and meaning of the Constitution, plus more intense focus on "genocide, slavery, the Holocaust, and the mass starvation in Ireland," according to the bill.

As a practical matter, the bill would also provide all high school students with the opportunity to register in their classrooms so they’re eligible in time for the next Election Day.

Opponents may contend that 17 year olds are not emotionally or intellectually ready for the responsibility of voting. But American 17 year olds already shoulder many of the responsibilities of adulthood: They can join the military (with parental consent), they can drop out of high school and work to support themselves and their families (80% of American high school students will hold jobs and pay taxes before they graduate), and, of course, they can drive a motor vehicle — one of their most dangerous responsibilities.

Still, these 17 year olds are left with no say in public affairs; they have no say in how their tax dollars are spent, how their public schools are run, how the criminal justice system is administered, and how legislators set their agendas.

Beyond enshrining the adult responsibilities and maturity of most 17 year olds, setting the voting age at 17 would expand and improve dismally low levels of democratic participation and civic engagement. In Austria, Brazil, Argentina, Scotland and one Maryland city, civic engagement soared when lawmakers lowered the voting age to 16. For example, the voter turnout by newly eligible 16- and 17-year olds in the Scottish independence referendum in 2014 was 75% — far higher than the 54% turnout by 18- to 24-year olds.


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To: EinNYC

I was enlisted in the Air Force six weeks after graduation in June 1970. My draft number was 3.

At the time, the age to vote was 21. The argument went through Congress in 1972, and signed not long after in that year.

With the current crop of pansies being raised, I would not soil the military establishments with such dunderheads, as today.

With all these years as witnesses, the voting age should be raised BACK to 21, or even a time when someone would graduate with a technical college degree, meaning 23 or 24.

I believe it is the Democraps attempting to engineer another whole generation of youth in their pocket.


41 posted on 05/05/2017 10:01:39 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: EinNYC

NO!


42 posted on 05/05/2017 10:02:52 AM PDT by webheart (All comments are considered to be sarcasm unless otherwise noted,)
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To: EinNYC

Give high schoolers the right to vote — young people need the right to be able to vomit in toilets and lie in gutters- they are exceptionally bright, and thus should be allowed to throw all their money into booze and rehab if they want to


43 posted on 05/05/2017 10:02:56 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: EinNYC

I say raise the age to 30.


44 posted on 05/05/2017 10:05:03 AM PDT by jch10 (Don't go along to get along!)
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To: EinNYC

No, they don’t. The voting age needs to be raised to 30, at a minimum.

And, e-verify is a requirement for voter registration.

Add in being on public assistance (aka: welfare) excludes you from voting.

Also, any states and municipalities who have “illegal alien sanctuary status” on the books as an ordinance, policy, or law, are barred from participating in US federal elections for ANY federal office.

This means that if you declare yourself a “sanctuary precinct”, you will lose any and all representation in congress, and your senators and congressmen will not be recognized, or be allowed into congress.


45 posted on 05/05/2017 10:05:19 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it. MAGA!)
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To: EinNYC

High school kids certainly feel like they know as much as they need to know to be able to vote. But their liberal teachers frequently have no compunctions about telling kids how they should vote. To give them the vote would be to amplify the vote of already liberal union member teachers who also think they are smarter than regular people.


46 posted on 05/05/2017 10:07:24 AM PDT by webheart (All comments are considered to be sarcasm unless otherwise noted,)
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To: EinNYC

This will result in Bella Thorne being elected Governor of New York.


47 posted on 05/05/2017 10:12:14 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: EinNYC

Then let them buy beer and cigarettes too.


48 posted on 05/05/2017 10:13:18 AM PDT by JerryBlackwell (some animals are more equal than others)
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To: EinNYC

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_in_the_Streets


49 posted on 05/05/2017 10:15:00 AM PDT by pabianice (LINE)
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To: bgill

At the very least, the age to vote should be the same as the age required to drink (21).


50 posted on 05/05/2017 10:16:41 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines (Their side circles the wagons. Our side revs up the bus.)
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To: bgill
The voting age needs to be raised to 35 or 40 when people are living in the real world with bills and responsibilities and start to get a little common sense.

That's an interesting take. I had previously thought that people should meet a threshhold of being able to pay a certain amount of taxes, or own property or a business, except if they are old and have already done that for many years. But of course it would be harder to track.

Let's keep it simple and go back to one of the provisions of the Founders: only men can vote. That will decimate the Democrat party right there.

51 posted on 05/05/2017 10:16:54 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We will be one people, under one God, saluting one American flag." --Donald Trump)
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To: EinNYC

Get them voting RAT while they’re still fully indoctrinated? No thanks!


52 posted on 05/05/2017 10:18:03 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: EinNYC

NONONONONONONO!!!, Even Jesus lived 30 years before beginning his ministry. It takes at least that much life experience before young people become adults mentally and emotionally. Liberals are young people who never became adults. It’s arrested development.


53 posted on 05/05/2017 10:29:12 AM PDT by WVNan
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To: EinNYC

I don’t even like the fact that 18 year olds can vote, though I will say that Trump got two votes from my household from people below the age of 21.

My kids are exceptions to the rule, as they were home schooled, and have never been subjected to the sort of socio-political indoctrination most of their peers have suffered in school.

Given the diminished state of the average youngster’s critical thinking and observational skills, I’d prefer to see the voting age raised to 25.


54 posted on 05/05/2017 10:44:16 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: EinNYC

That’s what we need, voters with minimal life experience who are ruled by hormones. /s


55 posted on 05/05/2017 10:46:47 AM PDT by TheStickman (And their fear tastes like sunshine puked up by unicorns.)
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To: Ciaphas Cain

Heinlein was correct!


56 posted on 05/05/2017 10:55:12 AM PDT by Taxman (Replace the income tax with the FAIRtax and abolish the IRS!)
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To: EinNYC

We need to increase the voting age to 30.


57 posted on 05/05/2017 10:56:59 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation has ended!)
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To: EinNYC
On The Good Ship Lollipop
It's a sweet trip to a candy shop
Where bon-bons play
On the sunny beach of Peppermint Bay

Lemonade stands everywhere
Crackerjack bands fill the air
And there you are
Happy landing on a chocolate bar

Shirley Temple

58 posted on 05/05/2017 11:02:00 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (How many does it take? It takes two. One to eat the possum, the other to direct traffic.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
"Wild In The Streets" comes to mind.
59 posted on 05/05/2017 11:06:34 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: EinNYC

Anyone who votes should have to pass the standard exam given to citizenship applicants. That would entail at least a working knowledge of social studies and historical material. That in itself would eliminate 17-year-olds.


60 posted on 05/05/2017 11:56:20 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberals' agony is my entertainment.)
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