...and I trust Sheila retrieved it...
Posted on 05/03/2017 1:02:57 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
It is in the personal realm that Garrow’s account is particularly revealing. He shares for the first time the story of a woman Obama lived with and loved in Chicago, in the years before he met Michelle, and whom he asked to marry him. Sheila Miyoshi Jager, now a professor at Oberlin College, is a recurring presence in “Rising Star,” and her pained, drawn-out relationship with Obama informs both his will to rise in politics and the trade-offs he deems necessary... Garrow, who received a Pulitzer Prize for his biography of Martin Luther King Jr., concludes this massive new work with a damning verdict on Obama’s determination: “While the crucible of self-creation had produced an ironclad will, the vessel was hollow at its core.”
Jager, who in “Dreams From My Father” was virtually written out, compressed into a single character along with two prior Obama girlfriends, may have evoked something of Obama’s distant mother, Stanley Ann Dunham. Like Dunham, Jager studied anthropology, and while Dunham focused on Indonesia, Jager developed a deep expertise in the Korean Peninsula. Jager was of Dutch and Japanese ancestry...
In Garrow’s telling, Obama made emotional judgments on political grounds. A close mutual friend of the couple recalls Obama explaining that “the lines are very clearly drawn. If I am going out with a white woman, I have no standing here.” And friends remember an awkward gathering at a summer house, where Obama and Jager engaged in a loud, messy fight on the subject for an entire afternoon. (“That’s wrong! That’s wrong! That’s not a reason,” they heard Sheila yell from their guest room, their arguments punctuated by bouts of makeup sex.) Obama cared for her, Garrow writes, “yet he felt trapped between the woman he loved and the destiny he knew was his.”
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
Pardon me. I believe in the Bible, and I am aware that it is verifiable.
With that being said . . . you deliberately miss my point so you can preach? My point is, that obama writes this stuff, and the press pushes it as Truth; LIKE a CULT. Perhaps, I should I have used the word koran or some other word for a holy book cults of the World follow. Get over your self righteousness.
This is what you and I posted that led to your nice comment...
YOU: These obama bios are really is Bible, because there is no proof that any of what he writes is true and often not verifiable, like his birthday; therefore, you have to accept it all by faith.
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ME:I am guessing “is” should be “his”
Not to hijack the thread, but with all due respect, much of the Bible actually is quite verifiable~perhaps more than you think...
The faith part comes down to John 3:16...
Sorry to inform you, but your post was not clear to me so in addition to your insulting comment about “self-righteous,” I guess you can call me stupid, because I did not get what you were saying...I believe the Bible is verifiable, so to use it as an example of unverifiable made no sense to me...
I did NOT DELIBERATELY MISS THE POINT OF YOUR POST SO I COULD PREACH...What is the “preach” anyway, and why would I? Sheesh! Bit sensitive aren’t you?
No I don’t preach...Your spiritual status is between you and God. However, seriously, if you believe the Bible is verifiable, then don’t say the Bible is not verifiable as a foundation for your argument.
IMHO the typo and your contention were confusing, and yes, as you stated, maybe you should have used “another cult’s holy book” Sooo sorry you cannot handle anyone questioning what you said without false accusations.
I presume someone paid her to write it.
Thanks for the ping.
Apologies in advance for the fact that I didn't make an effort to check the timeline for a plausible connection to the Sheila mentioned on this thread and that I also failed to read enough of today's relevant threads here to determine whether anyone else had already raised the possibility that these two Sheilas were one in the same.
And finally, I'm not sure that it would even matter to anyone. Just kinda interesting to try connecting some of these dots.
...and I trust Sheila retrieved it...
Obama’s sex secrets laid bare: How he considered a gay fling, had passionate sex and COCAINE with one white girl, proposed twice to another - and CHEATED on Michelle before they married
New biography of Barack Obama is laying bare his life since he was born and discloses his relationships before he married Michelle
Rising Star: The Making of Barack Obama by Pulitzer-prize winner David J. Garrow is published on May 9
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3549984/posts
(Well, that should get the cash registers chinging!)
Lots to talk about.
WP reviewer Carlos Lozada is a hardcore leftist/liberal so I don’t think he is going to know what is relevant about Obama’s life or not.
For instance, he doesn’t mention anything about “who” in Chicago politics influenced his decision to go that way. The list of actual and possible Communist Party USA members and Soviet assets is very important - Quentin Young, Milton Cohen, David Simon Canter (KGB asset, refused to register as an agent of a foreign power, Don Rose (and the Canter/Rose protege’ David Axelrod, also from a leftist, to some degree, family, and possibly Alice Palmer and her husband, both CP-sympathizers. Can’t forget the Bill Ayers-Bernadine Dohrn connection, or the Rabbi Arnold Wolf (neighbor, leftist) connection, or the Louis Farakhan possible connection, and the very famous Rev. Jeremiah Wright. All did or could have had major influences on Obama’s decision to go into local/state politics and then on to bigger things.
And least we forget, what about Saul Alinsky’s influence on Obama? I’ve met Alinsky. He was a slimy Marxist hiding behind a grandfatherly smile and “Marxism pushing under the guise of populist, people power talk”.
The “Kansas” part of Obama’s life could be very important (I haven’t read much on it but Frank Marshall Davis was involved in the state for a while).
Garrow is a pretty good historian but he often came upon information that he did not know how to properly place in history, or even the significance of it (including his lucky findings of Operation SOLO which would have exposed the FBI’s deep secret penetration of the Kremlin by using a former CPUSA leader turned anti-Soviet thinker, Morris Childs (Operation SOLO, John Barron, 1995).
However, I think his book should be read because it could show us more about Obama’s mental state over time as he begins to get his leftist messianic Marxist persona and mission from his time in Chicago, a strategic center of Communist/Marxist operations and influence since the 1930’s.
I suppose could be any kind of relationship. Even homosexuals often have had some kind of sexual dealings with the opposite sex, but it’s such a repulsive topic....
Odd that nothing was said about this supposed whatever it was, years ago.
I doubt if this “biography” will be any more accurate that Bill Ayers’ ghost written “Dreams” so-called autobiography.
Thanks so much for linking to my old thread, which I had zero recollection of with my ME/CFS! It seems like the time-lines match exactly and that Sheila is the correct ID of the name on the 1988 postcard.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3136492/posts?q=1&;page=51
From 2012 - The Gang’s all here in this article:
https://spectator.org/34799_dreams-frank-marshall-davis/
“IN SUM, FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS surely helps shed light on how America’s current president developed into a man of the left, ultimately ranked by National Journal as the most left-leaning member of the U.S. Senate— to the left of Ted Kennedy, Barbara Boxer, Hillary Clinton, and everyone else—in the final year before he ran for president. The man now in charge of the mightiest economic engine in the history of humanity was influenced, to some notable degree, by a pro-Soviet CPUSA member who plainly stood on the wrong side of history—stumping for an ideology that took the lives of over 100 million people in the last century. This man planted his flag on the dark side of the Iron Curtain.
This man, and his relationship with the most powerful man in the world—our current president— at least merits our attention.”
there was a Sheila...>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Sounds like a drug drop retrieved by Sheila.
Who knew? LOL.
Architect of Obama’s “hope and change” message and presidential campaigns, Axelrod is a native New Yorker who, like Obama and Frank Marshall Davis, found his political and professional calling in Chicago. In the 1970s, while Obama was being mentored in Hawaii by Davis, Axelrod was being mentored in Chicago by people with connections back to that same Chicago crew.
Axelrod had enrolled at the University of Chicago in the fall of 1972, majoring in political science and writing for the student newspaper...
Where, although generally unknown, the brother of Madelyn Dunham, nee Payne, mother of Stanley Ann, was Deputy Director of the Library. Charles T Payne was at the Chicago University from the 60's until his retirement some thirty years later...he and his wife Melanie lived in Hyde Park.
Fred> Kengor did a good job on summarizing Obama’s ties to the Communist Party USA officials/members in Chicago and Hawaii, but he left out a few things I uncovered, along with Trevor Loudon, Cliff Kincaid and the late Herb Romerstein and spoke about at the May 21, 2008 press conference of USAsurvival.org.
David Simon Canter’s father was not only a member of the Chicago/Illinois Communist Party but a major player in it along with Morris Childs (Operation Solo), Abe Feinglass - Meatcutters Union, Furriers Union, World Peace Council VP and suspected KGB operative -photo of him and John Kerry, April 1971 should still be found at www.wintersoldier.com or .org, “Is John Kerry a KGB Dupe?” or something like that; and Jack Spiegel, Shoeworkers Union, MVN Mobes and friend of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr (photo of them marching together in Chicago about 1969).
David Canter’s Marxist son Mark said that his father “knew Obama” but didn’t want to provide any details (this should be on the internet under his name). His father was also an unregistered/refused to register agent of a foreign power, the Soviet Union, for whom he imported propaganda for the Party bookstore in Chicago, along with another key Party leader, Leroy Wolins, Veterans for Peace leader in Chicago and according to one book, the inspiration for the creation of Vietnam Veterans Against the War in Vietnam (either in Hunt or Nicosia’s books).
The Red Web around Barack Obama started in the 1970’s and tightened around him in the 1995 meeting at Alice Palmer’s house where Obama took her Illinois Senate seat away from her (she had decided not to run again but then changed her mind). In that room were old CPers Quentin Young, Obama’s (later)_personal physician and key planner of the universal healthcare program; Milt Cohen, another CP player in Chicago fronts (both left the Party and joined the very pro-Obama Democratic Socialists of America; Palmer’s husband, a veteran leftist; Bill Ayers, Weatherman Marxist terrorist, possible his wife, fellow terrorist Bernadine Dohrn, possibly Marxist (Rep) Danny Davis (D-Ill later on), and a couple of unlisted people.
There is much more to the Obama-Davis-Chicago-Canter relationship, and perhaps his grandfather Stanley Dunham was involved because of his choice of a CPUSA-infiltrated church membership outside of Seattle (I think it was on Mercer Island).
The whole can of red worms has not been emptied. I guarantee you that.
Yes, you are self righteous. See the section below, especially the later part of it.
Perhaps more than I think? That is preaching you jerk. and yes, you did it, by deliberately missing my point. If you didn’t know my point, you could have simply asked. But, you choose to do your preaching, as if I knew nothing of the Bible. Now, leave me alone you self righteous, contemptuous jerk.
Obama goes for guys, like “Michelle”
They just have to keep up the appearance of him not being gay, especially now that he's all but admitted he is. Making her a honky is icing.
Being conversant re the Bible, this passage is no doubt familiar to you:
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.
5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
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