Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Looking for Input from Freepers on Retirement Accounts
Self | April 25, 2017 | Alberta's Child

Posted on 04/25/2017 7:36:12 AM PDT by Alberta's Child

Sorry for the vanity, but I'm dealing with a financial situation that is apparently a very unusual one and isn't easily addressed through traditional means.

Long story short ...

I'm looking into some options for opening a self-directed IRA (which is different from a self-managed IRA). The tax rules about these accounts are complicated, but I've determined that I can navigate them with minimal outside help.

The issue I'm facing is that the IRS requires a third-party custodian to be involved in the process to file the necessary paperwork and annual tax forms. For the life of me, I cannot find a single financial services firm among the ones I've used over the years who has ever done this sort of thing. Every financial advisor I've contacted would love to sign me up for a traditional IRA, but nobody has been willing or able to help with a self-directed IRA.

I have found several resources online with links to various companies that do this sort of thing, but I don't recognize any of them and I'm reluctant to engage someone I don't know without any recommendations from people I know in the industry.

Has anyone here ever opened a self-directed IRA? Who did you use as a third-party custodian?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: business; finance; iras; retirement; selfdirectedira
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-43 next last
To: Alberta's Child

As in #9, I have seen these guys do good work. When I was selling bullion, these guys (sometimes known as “The Church Trust”) handled the transactions.


21 posted on 04/25/2017 7:56:37 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child

https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=189246

FWIW


22 posted on 04/25/2017 7:57:36 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Ignorance is reparable, stupid is forever)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child

You’re looking for a solo 401k plan, then.


23 posted on 04/25/2017 7:58:31 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Kozak
OK -- thank you!

I may reach out to you later via Freep-mail on this.

24 posted on 04/25/2017 7:59:38 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: smokingfrog

That’s a possibility, but I’m still not 100% sure of the differences between a self-directed IRA and a self-directed Solo 401(k).


25 posted on 04/25/2017 8:03:47 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: House Atreides

I’ve been very happy with Scottrade, too.


26 posted on 04/25/2017 8:10:57 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: al baby
A seconded bump as this is info that interests me, as well.
27 posted on 04/25/2017 8:14:50 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason (It is time to make America an uncomfortable place for Marxist usurpers.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child

BFL


28 posted on 04/25/2017 8:17:51 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Willie Sutton went into robbing banks and Hillary Clinton went into politics)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child

I use Vanguard but I don’t know if they would provide what you are looking for.


29 posted on 04/25/2017 8:20:32 AM PDT by fulltlt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fulltlt

No, they won’t.


30 posted on 04/25/2017 8:28:42 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child

I have two comments: 1. If self employed don’t miss the Roth I 401K option. You can put more in than with an IRA. 2. I had a non-traditional investment in a captive insurance company preferred stock. Worked out really well to shelter dividends. Morgan Stanley was the custodian but it took them a long time to go for it because there was no easy valuation and they hadn’t done it before.


31 posted on 04/25/2017 8:31:00 AM PDT by JeanLM (Obama proves melanin is just enough to win elections)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: JeanLM

Thanks — but a Roth IRA or 401(k) is out of the question for me, since I’d be rolling this over from an existing IRA and I absolutely refuse to pay taxes on a Roth conversion.


32 posted on 04/25/2017 8:33:52 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child

[[Looking for Input from Freepers on Retirement Accounts]]

Don’t bother until AFTER this year- Christ may be coming back in Sept- maybe towards hte end of hte year- Wait awhile before heavily investing in anything- if we’re still here- then invest- but keep in mind, the next ‘possible date’ may be 2027 IF the ‘generation’ spoken of by Christ is 80 years and not 70 years (which would give us the date of 2017)


33 posted on 04/25/2017 9:17:27 AM PDT by Bob434
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child

You might inquire with a Delaware company about a Business Trust that is located in Delaware and has to be serviced by a local Delaware company.


34 posted on 04/25/2017 9:22:24 AM PDT by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain for a slasher, and find one.... what's your plan?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child

“I absolutely refuse to pay taxes on a Roth conversion.” So don’t do a Roth. If you have the money and are self employmed you can put a lot more in the I 401K going forward. Of course you can’t roll an IRA into a 401K. It comes down to how much do you want to shelter. I plan on $60,000 this year. In an IRA I can only do $6,000.


35 posted on 04/25/2017 10:10:49 AM PDT by JeanLM (Obama proves melanin is just enough to win elections)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child

All qualified accounts require a custodian.


36 posted on 04/25/2017 10:14:27 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: headstamp 2

Excellent input there. Thanks!


37 posted on 04/25/2017 10:21:51 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child

Good FAQ for some of these questions.
http://www.pgiselfdirected.com/faqs/


38 posted on 04/25/2017 10:26:34 AM PDT by mongrel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: mongrel

That’s another outstanding resource. Thank you!


39 posted on 04/25/2017 10:31:41 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child

While you’re researching, you might want to review IRS publication 590.

https://www.irs.gov/publications/p590a/index.html


40 posted on 04/25/2017 10:40:45 AM PDT by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-43 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson