Posted on 03/27/2017 5:04:01 PM PDT by MNDude
I've heard a lot of differing views directing anger, disappointment and relief at the various parties in Washington lately.
So I'm wanting to take a poll.
Did you support passage of Trump's and Ryan's healthcare bill? Or Did you support Freedom Caucus stopping it?
Voted for Trump because I supported most of his campaign positions. Also I had a very positive report from family members who had interacted with him and his oldest son years ago.
But I’m not for Obomination Care or Ryan Care or what the Freedom Caucus wants.
Having been robbed blind by the policies of the Globalist who control both parties I’m for a single payer system but one that does not include anything for the “refugees”, etc. who have been brought in to replace us.
Most other Trump voters I know face to face feel the same way.
But all these issues are meaningless if the Globalist provoke a war against Russia. In voting for Trump I had hoped that danger would be much less. At lease at little time for living has been obtained.
That’s a false choice. Differences aren’t that stark. The ball was in Ryans hand and The President was cheerleading. What failed us was the entire GOP house. We should be rolling the Democrats, but we’re still infighting. We’re a 3 party system, the progressives, the GOP left and the GOP right.
I absolutely support the HFC they saved Trumps ass and they are the only gatekeepers keeping the government tentacles from taking over EVERY DAMNED aspect of our lives!!! The VERY FEW we have sent there that have the balls to stand up and take the heat!!! Trump is wrong here blaming them this DAMNED bill is at LYIN RYAN’S feet!!! This DAMNED bill was constructed with NO INPUT from ANYONE until it was made public by LYIN RYAN!! For Ryan to do this KNOWING there would be many objections for the LSM and public to view was disgusting!!! He also lied to Trump saying he had the votes and he wasn’t even CLOSE to having the votes!!! He acted just like San Fran Nan the way he presented this to the public!!! He did this deliberately to hurt Trump!!! Trump blaming the HFC is dead wrong and I think his loyalty to Rience and Pence is the reason for this!!!!
FC
The poll isn’t driving the wedge; Trump is. He’s the one that swung at the FC for causing the bill not to pass but he never bothered actually reading it and seeing there was no light between it and odumbocare.
I don’t think the FC will do anything other than talk, but for sure a few of them are nervous. Some have been making CYA statements today. I’m not buying it from anyone.
You’re for single payer? seriously? are you on the right site? we don’t promote bohemoth gov programs that take over our lives. That’s what we fight against.
Freedom Caucus...Trump can do better
Very dissapointing.
Oh well, if I wanted everything perfect the first time I would have run.
Ryan/TrumpCare was not really any better than ObamaCare. It rebadged a few things, but kept most of the garbage that is driving up costs, failed to address the mandate, and ignored pretty much 100% of the reason healthcare is a mess (and why it is exponentially more expensive than it has to be).
Tort reform has not been mentioned by anyone. The Lawyer and Insurers Oligarchy hate that term. Malpractice lawsuits are way out of hand with idiots sitting on jury awarding money when often they should not. The insurers gag rules on doctors should be Unconstitutional as it denies a person the right to a defense. The Insurance Companies many of which own major HMO's need their butts spanked and taken to the congressional woodshed. REPEAL THE KENNEDY HMO ACT in it's entirety. Go back to true insurance which the Kennedy Act destroyed.
The goobermunt needs to take a few giant steps back in regulation of healthcare especially hospital day to day operation and Social Engineering mandates like birth control. This would once again encourage churches to come back into the picture using healthcare as part of their ministry. Has any of the above even been mentioned by Trump or Ryan? Ryan needs to get out of Pelosi's dress and resign as SOH. Passing a bill for the sake of passing a bill which again like Pelosi's Obamacare is open it up and see what's in it is wrong. Yes our healthcare system needs some fixing. No neither Trump nor Ryan nor the DEM''s are headed reform and fixing what needs fixing in the right direction. For once Insures need to be told to sit down, shut up, and lt other sides in this have a say for once.
Freedom Caucus
I only support FULL repeal of 0bamacare and a new bill that allows free market competition across state lines.
So I certainly oppose Trump and Paul Ryan. I support the Freedom Caucus killing the bill, but am angry with the for not putting up a better bill.
I support Trump. FC wants something that’s impossible without 60 GOP senators and Trump’s trying to stop Obamacares destruction of the middle class. It’s fine to be idealistic when you’re in the minority, but once in power you have to make compromises in order to achieve some good.
I’ll also note that the longer we fight other republicans on the issue, the more likely the we’ll end up with singer payer. A little known fact is how much in favor of single payer the business community is due to the costs associated with employer paid healthcare. It wouldn’t be real hard for the dems and liberal republicans to get together on the issue and drum up a lot support in the business community. Trump might sign it just to stop the destruction of the people who voted for him (the middle class).
Conservatives don’t own Trump, we simply made a deal with him for some of the stuff we wanted and our part of the deal is to support him even when he does stuff that’s not as good as we want it to be. Loyalty and reciprocation matters.
FC
Trump Purist Republicans are as bad as those Holier than thou Christians that point their finger at you telling you, “You aren’t a Christian,” while they gossip, backstab and hang out at the liquor store.
>Freedom Caucus saved his hide and he should not have tweeted what he did yesterday. Dumb to attack your most enthusiastic supporters and side with those who never wanted you in office.
Funny most of the people upset about Trump tweeting it seem to be holier than thou #nevertrumpers. I support Trump, not a bunch of idiots who put in power and keep in power that Traitor Ryan.
Both, I know that Trump wanted more but I did’t like the plan from Ryan but trusted Trumps judgement.
I hope the tax plan doesn’t go the same way.
Trump's tweets yesterday were a real eye opener.
If we truly were so disorganized and our message so poor that we couldn’t get the votes then we should have never started what we couldn’t finish. It just makes us look weak.
Besides, it is destined to fail of its own wicked accord - and soon.
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