Posted on 03/24/2017 9:56:23 PM PDT by WhatNot
The same people who just voted no on Paul Ryan's bill because it wasn't "conservative" enough, are the same people who voted to make Paul Ryan speaker of the House. Why?
Was Ryan more conservative back then, then he is today? Did Ryan promise them something, in order to get their vote. Or is the FC just a bunch of hypocrites. I think honest people know the answer.
I have to live under the abomination of Odummy care the rest of my natural life, because of a bunch of phony, self-righteous, hypocritical a-holes, who would rather cut off their noses to despite their faces, just to get people like you to think they are the only ones with any moral principles. What a crock!
Matthew 24:51
And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
You say shit like this and then you're angry when we won't co-operate. So, throw a tantrum and do it yourself...
I agree. I think it was all a big show, hopefully Trump will use it to move Ryan out, then something constructive can happen.
All the passage of this bill would have accomplished was shifting the blame for Obamacare to the Republicans.
No Hannity supported the Freedom Caucus. Sorry but you need to relisten.
Said every cement head who ever lived. You'll never learn a damned thing.
I have to live under the abomination of Odummy care the rest of my natural life,
Hopefully you won't live long. You'd probably not live long under homobamacare 2.0 either. Cheer up.
because of a bunch of phony, self-righteous, hypocritical a-holes, who would rather cut off their noses to despite their faces, just to get people like you to think they are the only ones with any moral principles.
What are you doing but spewing on about your own moral principles, you hypocrite a-hole.
"Matthew 24:51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
Don't break a tooth, gnash-boy.
I am not heralding anything, least of all some Ryan caucus.
Clearly you don’t know what was in the Rynocare bill. Taking away Vet benefits and giving immigrants free healthcare for example.
I don’t appreciate your curse language...it makes you look like a fool and Free Republic look like some sort of grunge forum.
Go away Troll.
Esp. from you Freedom Caucus blockheads.
Hopefully you won't live long.
Yeah, and suffer you Freedom Caucus fools.
What are you doing but spewing on about your own moral principles, you hypocrite a-hole
Trying to pound some sense into you senseless idol worshiping, Freedom Caucus groupies.
"Matthew 24:51
And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
Enjoy your portion!
I think your argument is:
1.) The Freedom Caucus is bad because they supported Ryan for Speaker.
2.) The Freedom Caucus is bad because they did not support the Ryan version of Obamacare.
” I have to live in a real world governed by sinful man. I can’t afford to live in POLITICALAND,”
Totally agree about the world governed by sinful man. But you are buying into the spin of sinful men who are entrenched in POLITICALAND. When men hold to right instead of expedience and convenience they should be supported. In my opinion the Freedom Caucus stood for right while others may not even have known what was in the bill they supported.
I don’t think my congressman, first term Jodey Arrington, had any foundational reason for support other than what the leadership told him. Bring it into the open and don’t try to force something down our throats. There are many people with great ideas. Ryan was operating out of fear and temperance which can only make things worse.
I have no idea if you are a Christian. The tone of your posts speaks for itself. It is not consistent with your tagline.
I have no idea how health share groups are treated in AHCA. I asked you because you are flinging attacks and insults at conservatives who see AHCA as a crap sandwich. Another said that healthshare treatment is even worse under AHCA than with ACA. Yet another poster said that ACA banned the formation of new healthshare groups. If those posts are accurate, I learned 2 new things in the last 24 hrs. We know that healthshare program save money for the membership. They cost money to the insurance companies and deprive the govt of control. Ryanocare doesn’t promote them because...?
You might want to read what I actually said. It wasn’t an argument of any kind for anything; it was a simple, unvarnished statement of historical facts.
Good thing I don’t allow my children to read anything in this forum. Can’t mature adults post without dropping the f-bomb multiple times?
The tone of my posts? Are you trying to suggest I’m in sin, because I don’t agree with a bunch of sanctimonious yahoos, who have now forever saddled the American people with legislation that Stalin himself would be proud of?
first, most of us are not “never trumpers”, and neither is the freedom caucus.
Ryanocare aka crap sandwich was not a life preserver. It was a bucket of Chum.
I am sorry since most people are not aware of how Ryancare penalizes people using Healthcare Ministry Plans I should probably have explained.
Obamacare charges a penalty through the IRS if you do not purchase an Obamacare plan or have some type of exemption. One of the exemptions is for people who are using Healthcare Ministry Plans instead of traditional insurance. Ryancare allows the insurance companies to charge a big penalty to individuals who have not been paying for a traditional insurance plan. They dropped the exemption for Healthcare Ministry Plans. So if a person has been using an exempted Healthcare Ministry Plan they will not be able to switch back to traditional insurance without paying a huge penalty.
This was not an inadvertent omission. Administrators for the several exempted Healthcare Ministries were in constant contact with congressmen and women including those responsible for drafting Ryancare. Christian Healthcare Ministries, the organization we are members of has allowed people to share over a Billlion dollars in healthcare expenses. It is far more efficient than insurance. The insurance industry views them as a threat.
I am aware of no health cost sharing ministry that takes any money from the government. Those who choose this alternative should not be penalized if they find that healthcare insurance in the future becomes more affordable and want to switch back. This was an intentional omission that illustrates the type of nonsense written into Ryancare on behalf of the insurance companies.
A “moderate” leftist policy is still leftist. Paul Rino won the seat because the GOP is a pathetic piece of work.
The GOP had opportunities to address health care policy during GeeDub’s term and did NOTHING! which gave both chambers and the White House to the left. In the meantime, perhaps they assumed the left would always keep control so they campaigned on dumping the ACA but put no plan together to keep medical expenses in check for the electorate. When they were faced with the mission to show how flippin’ brilliant they are, turns out they’re not so constitutionally oriented; presto! ACA lite.
The Freedom Caucus stood for nothing, but their own self-aggrandizement. The sooner people see that, the better.
This is your vanity thread. You are using it to attack FReepers who are against Ryanocare aka crap sandwich. Moreover, you don’t have a clue what you are posting about.
So yeah, the content of your posts and their tone are completely inconsistent with your tagline
“You can’t govern by being a purist.”
The RINO mantra.
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