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Trump's wire-tapping evidence. Your predictions?

Posted on 03/19/2017 7:19:19 AM PDT by MNDude

Trump recently stated on an interview on Fox news that he would be submitting some interesting evidence that he was spied on.

What do you predict he is going to release, and how strong will this evidence be?


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To: MNDude

I was disappointed waiting for Nixon to have any defense. I hope trump has something more than the NYT front page. So far not so much. I do not want him to cede an issue to these gadflys. The issue here is whom leaked the Flynn details and who decided to continue monitoring him while eavesdropping on the ruskie.


21 posted on 03/19/2017 7:33:50 AM PDT by Mouton (There is a new sheriff in town.)
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To: Starboard

Could you post link to article? Thanks.


22 posted on 03/19/2017 7:34:50 AM PDT by nclaurel
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To: MNDude

I would start with the News Articles first.


23 posted on 03/19/2017 7:36:06 AM PDT by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!)
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

ya, both Marc Levin and Napolitano seem pretty confident.

Interesting that Fox won’t back Napolitano, or maybe he just won’t reveal sources to them.


24 posted on 03/19/2017 7:37:38 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: tennmountainman

One of the Media will step forward and claim it’s theirs to take the fall.


25 posted on 03/19/2017 7:37:49 AM PDT by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!)
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To: MNDude
Note that the Fake News media and Libturds are focusing like a laser beam on the word "wiretapped". Are there any actual landlines in Trump Tower?

Remember that recording of Newt Gingrich that made its way to Rep. Jim McGermmot back in '96 I think it was?

Some elderly Florida couple named the Martins just happened to be listening to their police scanner when it picked up Newt's phone conversation and they just happened to have a recording device in their vehicle!

Strictly speaking, Newt wasn't being wiretapped, but he was definitely being monitored or surveilled.

I suspect the same thing happened with Flynn and the Trump Tower.

You don't necessarily have to "tap" any wires to listen in on a cell phone conversation.

26 posted on 03/19/2017 7:38:07 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Leep

Exactly....
Trump’s timing is impeccable......


27 posted on 03/19/2017 7:38:58 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: MNDude
It anyone needed to be spied on in regards to the Russians, it was the Soros-supported democrats. They were the ones who were so “flexible” with KGB Putin on such critically important things as missile defense and nukes, including the Iran nuke deal that Putin loves so much. It was also they who handed over to the Russians 20% of our uranium production, some of which they’ve already transferred to their allies in Iran. It was also they, who, in the face of an increasingly aggressive, expansionist Russia, practically dismantled our military.
28 posted on 03/19/2017 7:39:59 AM PDT by ETL (Trump admin apparently playing "good cop, bad cop" with thug Putin (see my FR Home page))
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Obama requested two FISA oks to tap Trump....and apparently, one, perhaps two were granted..... there is no doubt that Trump was tapped by Obama (that is to say, his minions).

FISA TIMELINE

June 2016: FISA request. The Obama administration files a request with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) to monitor communications involving Donald Trump and several advisers. The request, uncharacteristically, is denied.

October 2016: FISA request. The Obama administration submits a new, narrow request to the FISA court, now focused on a computer server in Trump Tower suspected of links to Russian banks. No evidence is found — but the wiretaps continue, ostensibly for national security reasons.

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The Obama wire-tapping gang WILL have to face the music.

(JIM0216 hat tip)......the issue isn't whether Trump was wiretapped (Obama admitted such and there's a FISA paper trail...... warrants issued for the wiretapping). The issue is whether there was probable cause to issue a warrant. Probable cause is defined as the reasonable likelihood that a crime is or has been committed by the person or at the place designated........

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(REAGANGENERATION2 HAT TIP)---Trump should be able to review all 2 or 3 FISA requests (if he hasn’t already), and then let Congress determine if the requesters lied about the probable cause justifying them......then (1) you’d prove perjury, and, even worse, (2) the intent was to abuse executive power.

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A good beginning....and then it gets downright lethal for the Obama gang:

Via Breitbart, JOHN HAYWARD observed that the FISA court may have approved a warrant submitted without Trump’s name but “which Obama then misused to spy on Trump and many connected to Trump.”

Ergo the most serious legal jeopardy that might be faced would be (a) perjury for lying to the FISA court, and, (b) the dissemination of collected intelligence that should have been kept tightly classified.

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It is also entirely possible that Obama and his legal team may have perjured themselves before the FISA court by willfully withholding material information in order to manipulate the FISA court’s willingness to permit the government surveillance.

FALSIFYING GOVT DOCUMENTS would fall under the Crimes Act of 1958. Moreover, falsifying official documents is the criminal MO to hide larger crimes.

EXCERPT A person falsifying documents can be held criminally liable if they are deliberately acting with the intention of deceiving or defrauding another party.

Falsifying documents is a very serious offense and is generally classified as a felony. This means that a person charged with falsifying documents may be subject to the following legal penalties:
◾Having to pay a monetary fine
◾Incarceration in a prison facility

Depending on the gravity of the offense, as well as individual state laws, falsifying documents can result in a prison sentence of 5-10 years.

And if official government documents or govt authorities were involved, the legal penalties may be more severe. Legal penalties may increase with repeat offenses.

Many different types of acts can be considered as falsifying a document, including:
◾Altering or misrepresenting fact-based information
◾Stating false information when requested to provide truthful statements
◾Forging a signature
◾Using official letterheads without authorization
◾Knowingly using or distributing a fake document

The penalty for falsifying government documents is outlined in the Crimes Act of 1958. (excerpt)

29 posted on 03/19/2017 7:40:03 AM PDT by Liz ( w W)
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To: dila813

Only if they want to spend a lot of time in jail with bubba, homey
and hard core Mexicans.


30 posted on 03/19/2017 7:41:17 AM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance)
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To: Liz

Maybe that is why Obummer is spending a month in French Polynesia...waiting to see which way the wind blows.


31 posted on 03/19/2017 7:42:35 AM PDT by kiltie65
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To: tennmountainman

It will be a rogue employee that will be paid off and promised they will be fixed


32 posted on 03/19/2017 7:42:42 AM PDT by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!)
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To: MNDude

There will be evidence of “surveillance” but the democrats and the MSM will say that Trump lied when he said that Obama sneaked into Trump tower and tapped Trump’s land line and should be impeached for dissing the former president/prince.


33 posted on 03/19/2017 7:42:42 AM PDT by odawg
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To: MNDude

If ø denies it he’s guilty.


34 posted on 03/19/2017 7:44:32 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: MNDude

I believe Trump said (March 15 2017), that interesting information will come out over the next two weeks.
Trump did not say he, personally, was releasing information.

We know 0bama spied on everyone, Merkel, Journalists, Judges, Congress critters. EVERYONE.

Folks will find out Everyone is “wiretapped”, and the true nature of this surveillance. Snowden will be proven to be truthful.

Folks will learn 0bama used this information to win elections and blackmail people.

We may have to dispatch US Marshals to bring 0bama back from French Polynesia and deposit 0bama into Club Gitmo


35 posted on 03/19/2017 7:44:37 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: dila813

Not under AJ Sessions watch!


36 posted on 03/19/2017 7:46:43 AM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance)
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To: FatherofFive

Better to completely and forever to discredit everything 0bama stands for


37 posted on 03/19/2017 7:48:15 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: Starboard

The GCHQ is now saying that the reports of their wiretapping originated with fake news sources controlled by - wait for it - the RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT. And it’s surprising that Americans can be so foolish as to fall for it. (Gee - that’s interesting. The NYTimes is a Putin puppet? Wow.)

Just shows how panicky the GCHQ is getting. Pathetic.
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38 posted on 03/19/2017 7:49:07 AM PDT by RAldrich
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To: Steven Tyler

Marshall has no jurisdiction there. Send in the marines to fetch his ass and deposit him in gitmo.


39 posted on 03/19/2017 7:49:34 AM PDT by Mouton (There is a new sheriff in town.)
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To: MNDude

The media and the NeverTrumper cabal in the federal government still haven’t figured it out. Donald Trump says things that are calculated for effect. For everything he says or tweets he expects a particular outcome that will benefit him. He won’t throw some outlandish claim out there just for the heck of it. He’s sitting on a mountain of evidence and just waiting to do another gotcha on these clowns. In the meantime more and more Americans are waking up to the reality that there may be rogue elements in the federal government, and it’s not just kook talk anymore.


40 posted on 03/19/2017 7:51:09 AM PDT by dowcaet
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