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The SKS Is the Cockroach of Weapons
War is Boring ^ | March 12, 2017 | Robert Beckhusen

Posted on 03/13/2017 6:14:18 AM PDT by C19fan

The most iconic rifle of the 20th century is the AK-47. One of the most iconic rifles of World War II — granted, this is more debatable — is the Mosin-Nagant. Both were developed in Russia. The SKS, short for Self-Loading Carbine of the Simonov System, is the odd one out. Developed in the interim between the Mosin-Nagant and the AK-47, Sergei Simonov’s semi-automatic carbine had a mere 10-round internal box magazine, an improvement from the fundamentally 19th-century design of the five-round, bolt-action Mosin.

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TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: banglist; rifles; russia
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1 posted on 03/13/2017 6:14:18 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

SKS...
Russian answer to the Garand?


2 posted on 03/13/2017 6:23:08 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: C19fan

interesting read
thanks


3 posted on 03/13/2017 6:25:31 AM PDT by ptsal
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To: C19fan

Cockroach? (as in insect) Two meanings spring to mind about cockroaches. They are very undesirable on one end and very durable on the other.

Today I’d say that rifle is both. I’ve had it for 20 years, fired hundreds of rounds through it. Very durable as it’s never been cleaned. It just sits in the corner of the garage and used as needed.

There’s just nothing classy about it. It’s accuracy is not the best. It’s far from my favorite, but I like it.


4 posted on 03/13/2017 6:27:36 AM PDT by redfreedom
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To: Big Red Badger

The Russians had the SVT-40 but it was a complicated weapon so it fell out of favor to concentrate on producing Mosin-Nagants when the Germans invaded.


5 posted on 03/13/2017 6:27:52 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: Big Red Badger

“Russian answer to the Garand?”

I’ve often thought the same. But other than that I don’t think they should be compared as IMO the Garand is more accurate and much better built.


6 posted on 03/13/2017 6:29:52 AM PDT by redfreedom
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To: C19fan

Had a Russian 1954 all matching numbers. New condition when I bought it 22 years ago. One of two guns I’ve ever let go. Sold it to my neighbor last year ... for over 2x what I paid for it. He is thrilled with it.

In hindsight I probably should have kept it. But at least he has my back when the time comes we need those scary rifles.


7 posted on 03/13/2017 6:30:25 AM PDT by Comment Not Approved (When bureaucrats outlaw hunting, outlaws will hunt bureaucrats.)
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To: redfreedom

There is a company that sells a new machined firing pin with a spring to keep it from sticking to the face of the bolt, otherwise, like a hammer in the tool box, there when needed, and works every time.


8 posted on 03/13/2017 6:30:57 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: redfreedom

Garand was a 7.62x51mm. SKS is a 7.62x39mm.


9 posted on 03/13/2017 6:31:37 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: AppyPappy

Garand is a 30-06. There is a conversion to 7.62 however the standard Garand is/was 30-06.


10 posted on 03/13/2017 6:39:52 AM PDT by 11Bush
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To: C19fan

I have 2 SKS. One of them is dead on accurate and dependable. Wouldn’t trade or sell it for anything.


11 posted on 03/13/2017 6:44:46 AM PDT by slipper (It may be too late.)
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I prefer the handling of the AK, but the internals of the SKS are extremely durable and simple. The AK rotating bolt is a wear point.

I believe the Chinese type 56 is an AK with SKs internals but is only available in Canada


12 posted on 03/13/2017 6:50:52 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: AppyPappy

7.62x51 was the NATO round that the M-14 used. M1 Garand was a 7.62x63 or better known as 30-06.


13 posted on 03/13/2017 6:57:57 AM PDT by damper99
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To: AppyPappy

7.62x51 was the NATO round that the M-14 used. M1 Garand was a 7.62x63 or better known as 30-06.


14 posted on 03/13/2017 6:58:01 AM PDT by damper99
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To: Big Red Badger

I think it’d be better explained as the Russians answer to the M-1 Carbine


15 posted on 03/13/2017 6:58:12 AM PDT by firedoggy111 (Books, Articles on the Spanish Civil War)
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To: C19fan

I have a Russian SKS. Quite accurate. Bought it from a catalog years ago for next to nothing. Through the mail, direct to my house in NEW YORK STATE before the loony left gun haters took over.


16 posted on 03/13/2017 6:58:54 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Big Red Badger; redfreedom; marktwain
SKS...

Russian answer to the Garand?

Nah. More like the Russian answer to the M1 carbine. Remember that at the time of their introduction and most of their wartime use, the M1 carbine had a 15-round capacity, while the CKC carried ten in a non-detachable box magazine that a peasant conscript riding on the back of a T-34 tank couldn't drop or loose; the CKCs had a bayonet, also attached, while early M1 carbines did not. And Privat Ivavovich's bosses felt that the little PPSh *Shpagina* SMGs were a bit underpowered, as was the carbine; the 7,62x39mm M43 cartridge of the CKC cured that problem well enough to also find use in the AK47 and RPD LMG.

We built some 6 million M1 and M1A1 carbines during the war, plus a few full-auto capable M2 and M3 versions. They built some ten million Siminova SKS/CKC carbines and the Chinese probably have doubled that- or more

17 posted on 03/13/2017 7:33:45 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: slipper

One of them is dead on accurate and dependable.


My experience with a number of SKS rifles is that they are quite accurate, but the problem is there relatively poor open sights. If you have superb eyes, the SKS sights are ok.

But peep sights are intrinsicly easier to use and more accurate because of a longer sighting radius.

The SKS is not a great rifle for scope mounting. But if you can mount a scope on an SKS, they do very well.

The problem is the dust/receiver cover of the SKS should be taken off for cleaning, and that usually means taking off the scope and remounting it.

An excellent rifle for the price, I consider it a very good militia rifle.


18 posted on 03/13/2017 8:11:08 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: AppyPappy

Garand was a 7.62x51mm.


I think you meant 7.62/63. (Metric designation for the 30-06.)


19 posted on 03/13/2017 8:15:26 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: slipper
I have only one but it is incredibly accurate out to 100 yards, farther than than that I get out the old Mosin-Nagant which I can trust out to 1000 yards. I think if I needed to do sniper work I would use the Mosin-Nagant, I'm surprised more don't use it for that, they can really reach out. The old guns look like old guns but then again they do the job.

When I first got the SKS ammo was $.05 per round, today if I can find it for under 10 times that I feel fortunate.

20 posted on 03/13/2017 8:45:07 AM PDT by JAKraig (my religion is at least as good as yours)
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