"Tom" reveals origins of 'Golden Showers' segment of Trump dossier to Jeff Kuhner

YouTube/Jeff Kuhner Report ^ | January 11, 2017 | Jeff Kuhner

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A 4Chan participant self identifying as "Tom" is familiar with the origins of the "Golden Showers" segment of the anti-Trump dossier and shares specific details with Jeff Kuhner.

• Listen here to the cued up portion of Kuhner Report 1/11/2017

  Rough transcript of relevant details:

• Kuhner: "Tom on PeeGate in Mass, go ahead Tom..."
• Tom:..."OK I'll start at the beginning. What happened is Rick Wilson put out a tweet that kind of offended a lot of people on the political section of a website called 4Chan. Uh, so, it angered a lot of people-actually, the funny thing is it wasn’t many Trump supporters. It was mostly Jeb supporters that were in on this.

  Um, this started back in January of 2016. So, after that, we kind of got together and wrote some, you know – it was all joke stories. What’s funny is like half these things, like, things that you read about the pee stuff – that, all most of it came from Rick Wilson’s son. We found that his son was writing stuff like this on the internet. So, we kind of like compiled a little joke story and it was just meant to annoy Rick Wilson. So, Rick Wilson got it and he took it – he didn’t understand that a lot of it was written by his son or was based off of things that his son wrote. Um, so, Rick Wilson passed it up the chain through McMullen.

• Kuhner: Ok, now Tom, before you continue I want to ask you this…Because what you said to us on the phone was you were kind of ‘in on this’, correct?
• Tom: Yeah, a lot of us got together and we were – and we came up with a joke story…
• Kuhner: Basically a joke story, what they call ‘fan fiction’.
• Tom: Yeah,
• Kuhner: And, Rick Wilson, what you said, is an establishment Republican, a big #NeverTrump’er, close with the Bush’s – Jeb Bush, but also with ties to Marco Rubio and John McCain, correct?
• Tom: Correct.
• Kuhner: Ok, and then so, you pushed it to Rick Wilson. He obviously took the bait. Then, what did he do with the info?
• Tom: Ok, so then, um, somehow , I don’t know if it was him or one of the members of his staff – but they presented it to McMullen, uh, and then, uh, who you know what pages he’s got ties to and uh, then McMullen passed it onto McCain and then McCain passed it on to Comey an now at some point in these transactions a lot of, uh, more Russian stuff was added so that not all of this – a lot of the things were changed in it and like the Russians , uh, they put more of a Russian spin on it than what we had originally come up with.
• Kuhner: The five years that they had been cultivating Trump that they had been cultivating for five years – and they wanted him to buy properties and hotels and they tried to put sweeteners in there to hook him in. Right, all of that was, I think that was added by the CIA – correct, Tom?
• Tom: Yeah, yeah. These are all fake things that they just put a spin on it. Which is funny, that they just throw it into a story that they thought was true to begin with. And, um, what they – ok, so, after that, like, we put in things like’ Manafort’. If you know that towards the end,’ Manafort ‘ is misspelled three different times. And so, we put that in on purpose to see if (transmission is garbled) it would ?
• Kuhner: Tom, hold on, you’re breaking up on me. Tom, can you hear me? Hello? Ah! Ok, we just lost Tom. Did we lose him? Let’s try it..ok…we’re going to try to call him back because the sixty-four-thousand dollar question – I think I know the answer but ‘why would you have done this in the first place?’. Why? Now, I think the answer is, look, Rick Wilson is a very obnoxious guy. He’s always, he was always insulting Trump supporters throughout the entire campaign. He was rabidly anti-Trump. So, ok, we’ve got him back? OK, I think it was ‘let’s just prank him and just basically pull of a hoax, never thinking it was going to get this far. Tom, do we have you back on?
• Tom: Yeah, okay, so
• Kuhner: Tom,
• Tom: So, we never thought it was going to go this far, exactly. And
• Kuhner: Tom, why did you do it (cross talk)…Tom, if you don’t mind me asking, why did you do it in the first place?
• Tom: To annoy Rick Wilson. It wasn’t meant to, like, scuttle anyone or see who would publish it or this and that. It was just to annoy Rick Wilson.
• Kuhner: Ok, we’re missing like why would this annoy him? Wouldn’t he love this, that, you know . . .?
• Tom: No, we’re gonna show the stuff that his son – like, where we had all the things that show what his son had said half these things (cross talk)
• Kuhner: Ah, so basically to embarrass him, to humiliate him. You believe something that your own son wrote as fiction.
• Tom: Correct. Yes.
• Unidentified female co-host: I have a question. Are you going to come out on other than this talk show that you and your friends made up this joke? (cross talk) Are you going to go public with it?
• Tom: We have someone right now who is working with a lawyer to prove that the documents he presented with Rick Wilson are, in fact, from January. Well, in fact, I’m turning them over .
• Kuhner: Well, Tom, listen. I really want to thank you for calling the show because you’ve completely clarified this. I’ve got to ask you one final question, Tom, ok?
• Tom: Absolutely.
• Kuhner: So, this started off as a hoax, as a prank, as a joke to go after Rick Wilson. Is it not frightening that what starts out as a prank, as a joke, ends up being in out intelligence report? Ah, we lost him again. Ok. Hopefully we can get him back on. I mean, I want you to think about this. That the CIA put this in their intelligence report and not only was this put in their intelligence report – this completely bogus story – unverified – unsubstantiated – clearly in fact, a hoax orchestrated – but then, they send it around (this is the key point) to everybody on Capitol Hill – all majors, the top senators got this briefing. People in the intelligence community supposedly got this briefing. Obama supposedly got this briefing.

  So, complete fake news was taken up by the CIA , just unconditionally, without any vetting, without any fact-checking and then they pass it off as ‘truth’, as the real thing to bring down a president-elect. I want you to think about that.

  And on top of it, he just admitted it. By the way, McCain has now admitted it. He was the guy that sent the staffer off to meet with this supposed British agent who also had this bogus dossier and he fed it to Comey to bring down Trump as well.

  This is our intelligence community? Then they’re even caught adding a Russian spin to it, on top of it all, to make the story even worse for Trump and to, sort of make his connection with Putin even tighter?

  They’re making everything up!

  And these are the people entrusted with the national security of The United States?

  Listen, my friends, heads have to roll.

  Jake Tapper has to go.

  McManiac (McCain) has to resign over this. He needs to be forced to resign over this.

  And the CIA, it is now time for major sweeping reforms and a purge of all of these political hacks at the CIA.

  Agree/disagree

[onona]

I heard the transmission. Very interesting.

[stars & stripes forever]

DRAIN THE SEWER INFESTED SWAMP.

[RC one]

In 8 days, the punishment begins.

[for-q-clinton]

New term to use “Fake Intel”

[pepsionice]

In the case of McCain, I think the GOP needs to draw the line...bring an ethics panel in...and just let McCain know he can retire, or the party will dismiss him (he can be an independent or Democrat)...but he needs to have his continual overseas travel business to end one way or another.

[Buckeye McFrog]

Fake Intel has always been around.

The Soviets used to call it “disinformation”.

The disturbing thing is that our top intel officials apparently can’t tell the difference.

[Vic S]

What if McCain is lying and no staffer went to England to p/u the dossier? And the British govt is lying about the agent in hiding to protect McCain? We know the CFR works closely with the RIIA (Chatham House) on both foreign and domestic policy.

The whole system *is* corrupt and has been taken over by the ruling class (the Oligarchs). The CFR and the RIIA (and CIIA) were started in the early 1900s, right after the federal reserve. A good book that explains how this works is by Carroll Quigley, “Tragedy and Hope.” Quigley was Bill Clinton’s mentor. Jay Dyer has a good 8-part book report on this, available on youtube.

[Responsibility2nd]

4chan is a group of very sick demented bastoids. Have been for years.

Did they hoax us with the Pizza Gate story? Did they hoax us the this Piss Gate story?

I think they should be sued right the hell out of their mothers basement.

[for-q-clinton]

True. But Fake Intel in this context is internal focused. Pretty much propaganda against our own citizens, which is illegal for the CIA to focus inward.

[Jamestown1630]

Lately a lot of events have led me to believe that at least many ‘top politicians’ are really ignorant about the technology and culture of the Internet; which makes it dangerous to them, and their ignorance is also dangerous to us.

[Red Badger]

“Fake Intel” is what is called ‘Disinformation’................

[Responsibility2nd]

Fake Intel has always been around.

The Soviets used to call it “disinformation”.

The disturbing thing is that our top intel officials apparently can’t tell the difference.

 

Who says our top intel couldn't tell the difference? I say they knew it was a hoax but ran with it anyway. Just like the media - they pulled out all the stops to elect Hitlery.

 

[HarleyLady27]

So Jeb Bush was involved...considering his father was the head of the CIA for a while, doesn't surprise me...and I'll go one farther, Hillary Clinton was involved, just hasn't come out yet...

This was their way of knocking Trump out in the campaign, and now it's for getting Trump impeached after he takes office...

I hope heads roll down the streets of ‘swamp city’ for all of the World to see!!!

Remember: What the RATS do, they tell you, this was a RAT story from the beginning...the ‘spy’ Christopher Steele said that no one contacted him...and yesterday after Pres. Elect Trump threw open the curtain on this story for all to see, the CIA Brenner calls him??? CYA there...and the three have to go to an investigation today about Russian involvement on our Elections...McCain needs to be put in prison, along with Brenner, Shumer (he knew about this) and everyone else involved...

‘DRAIN THE SWAMP’!!!

[for-q-clinton]

Not when focused on your own people. Disinformation is when you do it to the enemy.

[Bratch]

PEOTUS knows all about disinformation.

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Slightly more than a week after winning the 2016 Presidential Election, the head of the NSA Cyber Command, Admiral Mike Rogers, went to New York and met with the new President-Elect Donald Trump inside Trump Tower.

A month prior to that specific visit, DNI Director James Clapper advised President Obama to fire Admiral Mike Rogers.

There is every indication, every reason to believe, that Admiral Rogers gave President-elect Donald Trump a very specific “head’s up“; warning the incoming president of actions which would be undertaken by political operatives within the intelligence community to undermine the construct of the incoming administration.

All activity from that mid-November meeting through to now, points to Rogers giving advanced notice to Trump of a political intelligence scheme which culminated today with the public embarrassment of the those politicized intelligence agencies, operatives and their vessels for disinformation – the media.

Following the meeting with Donald Trump, it clearly appears Admiral Mike Rogers went back into the matrix and, as an outcome of his position, followed orders – but did so with an arms length approach.  The NSA (Rogers) did not support the political intelligence “high confidence” narrative as it was constructed by James Clapper (DNI) and John Brennan (CIA).

We’ll never know what subtle action was taken, or not taken, by Rogers which ultimately culminated in a completely false assertion from “leakers” within the “intelligence community” about a fake report promoted by CNN.  –SEE HERE–

However, we can be certain the details of the claim by CNN was entirely disinformation -false information- perhaps intended to discover internal intelligence agency leakers/operatives.

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Tripwire Alert – The Intelligence Shadow War Final Act…

[bigbob]

His SON trolled him? Even better! Which makes some sense, as otherwise why target Rick Wilson who is a pretty much nobody low-level unrecognized political hack?

The content is very much inline with the mentality of 4chan (anime, japanese porn, perversion), so that matches up too.

[pgkdan]

McManiac (McCain) has to resign over this. He needs to be forced to resign over this.

[pgkdan]

McManiac (McCain) has to resign over this. He needs to be forced to resign over this.

He'll never resign. He has no conscience, no shame, no integrity. Just look at what he's done to POW's, MIA's and their families while he's been in the Senate. The nasty, crazy old fart will probably die on the Senate floor.

[Red Badger]

Disinformation is when you do it to the enemy.

AND your point is?.................