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To: oh8eleven

I never understand why in sports, we see musical chairs of head coaches, baseball managers etc. I understand disappointment in a losing season or a rebuilding year; disappointment if you don’t go deep in the playoffs.

But, you hire the best football men or baseball men you can find, and you fire them a few years later. You replace them oftentimes with someone who had in turn been dismissed by another team for perceived failures.

So what is the deal? Does just the act of bringing in a new face shake things up in a locker room, and inspire the team to greater achievements supposedly? Remember too there is constsnt turnover among players too. So if a team does better with a new coach was it because of him or because they signed some key free agents who plugged holes in the team???

Just wondering. So many coaches and managers and general managers, end up getting fired but then are hired by other teams.


9 posted on 12/27/2016 9:00:31 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego
I never understand why in sports, we see musical chairs of head coaches ...
You fire the coach because you can't fire the (lousy) team.
15 posted on 12/27/2016 9:05:44 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Interesting and insightful perspective.


17 posted on 12/27/2016 9:07:08 AM PST by Leo58 (Those who cheer you today will curse you tomorrow, the only thing that endures is character.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

The Bills are ranked #20 out of 32 teams. Not everyone can be #1. As if kicking them out before the last game is going to move them up. That was a stupid move. I’m going to laugh to see them drop next week.


20 posted on 12/27/2016 9:15:25 AM PST by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Dilbert San Diego

case in point:

Jack Del Rio

In 2003, Del Rio became the second head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars following Tom Coughlin’s (who won two Superbowls with the NY Giants)dismissal.

On November 29, 2011, Del Rio was fired as Jacksonville’s head coach.

On January 27, 2012, Del Rio was hired as the new defensive coordinator of the Denver Broncos (who went to the Superbowl twice, won once).

On January 14, 2015, Del Rio was hired to become the new head coach of the Oakland Raiders, who are in the playoffs
for the first time in decades..................

It ain’t the coach,, it’s the talent on the field............


28 posted on 12/27/2016 9:20:48 AM PST by Red Badger (If "Majority Rule" was so important in South Africa, why isn't it that way here?............)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Musical chairs in the business world as well. Carly Fiorina? The other gal from ebay. The guy who took over JC Penney and actually made it worse. Business world is full of failed execs who take over another outfit and go back to the same failed playbook.

One guy that constantly gets hired is Lane Kiffin - he's had a string of failures/controversies as head coach (UTenn, Oakland, etc), now he's HC at FAU. I would add his pop, Monte as a DC easily - sharp guy.

29 posted on 12/27/2016 9:20:48 AM PST by HonkyTonkMan
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To: Dilbert San Diego

It’s a results oriented business. Also it helps placate fans, who are in the end the ones that pay the bills and tend to increase ticket and merch purchases right after a big change brings new hope. Now it’s true most teams are too fast on the hook, you really need to give a guy 4 or 5 years to really get his people and program in place.


36 posted on 12/27/2016 9:27:53 AM PST by discostu (Alright you primative screwheads, listen up!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Usually the only coaches that get rehired after being fired are ones that have gotten their previous teams into the playoffs.

Andy Reid being a prime example. Andy lead the Eagles to the playoffs and Super Bowl. That is why he was sought out and signed by Kansas City so quickly.

Rex, however, isn't likely to be a head coach again.

41 posted on 12/27/2016 9:30:56 AM PST by Kazan
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To: Dilbert San Diego
I never understand why in sports, we see musical chairs of head coaches, baseball managers etc.


Because you can't fire the team.

47 posted on 12/27/2016 9:37:12 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I suspect it is just a matter of chemistry, environment, and an organization looking at a candidate and saying “we can put him in the right environment to succeed”.

The other people just “didn’t do it right”...:)


56 posted on 12/27/2016 10:00:24 AM PST by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“Just wondering. So many coaches and managers and general managers, end up getting fired but then are hired by other teams.”

Believe it or not, personalities come into play. Belichick was fired in Cleveland. The owner of Cleveland did not like Belichick. Look at him now.

It also has to do with being at the right place at the right time.


75 posted on 12/27/2016 10:47:45 AM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Note to all foreigners: Please.....GET OUT and STAY OUT!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

According to Ask.com, he winners of the “retread award” for being head coach of the most teams are...

Wade Phillips and Jimmy Conzelman. Both have coached five teams.


84 posted on 12/27/2016 11:04:46 AM PST by henkster
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