What did the Founders say about a "Citizen of the World"?

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[ProgressingAmerica]

Progressives are fond of selling old ideas as somehow being new, and the only real point that they have to rely on is that someone won't go and look it up. Meanwhile they engage in revisionist history, erasing and covering up historical facts, then progressives top it all off with the arrogance to claim that "Well the Founders could not have fore saw........" (finish the false claim)

Mr. progressive, you would be wrong - as you always are. As recorded by James Madison, Gouverneur Morris made the following comment on August 9th, 1787:

Mr. Govr. MORRIS. The lesson we are taught is that we should be governed as much by our reason, and as little by our feelings as possible. What is the language of Reason on this subject? That we should not be polite at the expence of prudence. There was a moderation in all things. It is said that some tribes of Indians, carried their hospitality so far as to offer to strangers their wives & daughters. Was this a proper model for us? He would admit them to his house, he would invite them to his table, would provide for them confortable lodgings; but would not carry the complaisance so far as, to bed them with his wife.

He would let them worship at the same altar, but did not choose to make Priests of them. He ran over the privileges which emigrants would enjoy among us, though they should be deprived of that of being eligible to the great offices of Government; observing that they exceeded the privileges allowed to foreigners in any part of the world; and that as every Society from a great nation down to a club had the right of declaring the conditions on which new members should be admitted, there could be no room for complaint.

As to those philosophical gentlemen, those Citizens of the World as they call themselves, He owned he did not wish to see any of them in our public Councils. He would not trust them. The men who can shake off their attachments to their own Country can never love any other. These attachments are the wholesome prejudices which uphold all Governments, Admit a Frenchman into your Senate, and he will study to increase the commerce of France: an Englishman, he will feel an equal biass in favor of that of England. It has been said that The Legislatures will not chuse foreigners, at least improper ones. There was no knowing what Legislatures would do. Some appointments made by them, proved that every thing ought to be apprehended from the cabals practised on such occasions. He mentioned the case of a foreigner who left this State in disgrace, and worked himself into an appointment from another to Congress.

Chalk that one up as yet one more thing that the Founders did, in fact, fore see.

[ProgressingAmerica]

Full title: Could you ever trust a "Citizen of the World"? What would the Founders say about this, if anything?

[ProgressingAmerica]

Ping........

[combat_boots]

“The men who can shake off their attachments to their own Country can never love any other.”

Yup. No one trusts a traitor.

[MrEdd]

Wasn’t it established more than seventy years ago that a citizen of the world is a drunkard?

[real saxophonist]

Citizen of the Earth

[Old_Grouch]

Great find! Very interesting to see this one phrase: as every Society from a great nation down to a club had the right of declaring the conditions on which new members should be admitted

because as we know, that right no longer exists. Many groups have been forced to revise the conditions related to admitting members. Freedom of association is not honored any more!

[eyeamok]

Bring in a Muslim named Barry and the Islamist Caliphate is in full swing, Islamist Terrorists run amok all over the world,....

We were right just as they were 240 years ago.

[Sasparilla]

To the Founders, a citizen of the world was better known as a man without a country.

[x]

Admit a Frenchman into your Senate, and he will study to increase the commerce of France ...

Anything you say, Gouverneur ...

[bigbob]

They said “citizen of the world is fake news”.

[ealgeone]

Try tellsing that to the congressional black congress or naacp.

[polymuser]

And freedom of association is a God-given right.

[Ray76]

> Try telling that to the congressional black congress or naacp.

Or the Congressional Progressive Caucus, the US branch of the Socialist International.

Traitors List: https://cpc-grijalva.house.gov/index.cfm?sectionid=71&sectiontree=2,71

[sauropod]

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Recessional of the Sons of the American Revolution:
“Until we meet again, let us remember our obligations to our
forefathers who gave us our Constitution, the Bill of Rights,
an independent Supreme Court and a nation of free men.”

Dr. Benjamin Franklin, when asked if we had a republic or a monarchy, replied "A Republic, if you can keep it." [we did, despite their best effort]

[jmcenanly]

If I remember the Edward Everett Hale story, that was a punishment for cursing his country. Now, that sort of behavior seems to be a career enhancement in progressive circles.

[C210N]

“I must avow to your Majesty, I have no Attachments but to my own Country.” John Adams.

“An honest Man will never have any other.” King George III.

[Stanwood_Dave]

For what it's worth:

James Madison ( Who kept meticulous records) as noted in the U.S. Supreme Court Case, 1892, Church of The Holy Trinity Vs. United States, 43 U.S. 465.

My two cents:
The closet thing, to having a tape recording of the proceedings.

[bert]

-—The lesson we are taught is that we should be governed as much by our reason, and as little by our feelings as possible.-—

Now that is an enlightened statement. The very lack of reason among both liberals and many conservatives is why we have so much trouble.

[T-Bone Texan]

The right of Freedom of Association was destroyed (in the late 50s/early 60s, I believe), via the Supreme Court, by atheistic commie lawyers.

It is a right all Americans should enjoy.