Posted on 12/09/2016 10:32:16 AM PST by C19fan
The Russian Navy has lost two carrier-based fighters onboard its sole remaining carrier Admiral Kuznetsov in the span of only a few weeks. On both occasions, technical problems with Kuznetsov’s arresting gear played a central role in the accidents — which have cost the Kremlin a Mikoyan MiG-29KUBR Fulcrum-D and a Sukhoi Su-33 Flanker-D. While Kuznetsov’s hardware is old, the bigger issue is Russia’s relative lack of experience in naval aviation and insufficient proficiency with launching and recovering combat aircraft onboard a carrier at sea.
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Where’s the pic of the Chitty Chitty Bang Bang reverse engineering team?
I think the only reason the carrier is there is to get practice.
Made In The USSR ?
They don’t have inflight refueling that is carrier based.
We just lost two also...One in Dec 2015 and another in March 2106. Several sailors were injured in one of those mishaps.
They’re using coal fired steam engines.
We evolved.
They are trying to copy (and don’t know why).
The two problems:
Water
Planes
True, but we are conducting vast numbers of flight hours compared to the fledgling Russian naval aviation.
IBTACC - In before the Anti A/C Carrier crowd.
*** “Comes down to getting the right procedures and training the sailors to perform their tasks to a high level. Russia does not have that. Training and procedures have never been Ivan’s strong points” ***
They do not Trust their sailors, we had their Brass aboard (don’t remember if it was Kitty Hawk or Ranger) and they were in total disbelief that Enlisted were even allowed near the aircraft let alone involved in any of the Flight evolution’s.
They thought we were scamming them
If you weren’t operating carriers in the days of props, you are in for a LONNNGG learning curve when it comes to modern jets. It’s very evolutionary.
If the Russians can get their ground crews to stop stealing the anti-freeze used by aircraft to prevent icing at high altitudes, to drink themselves dead with, then maybe... just maybe... they can figure out how to keep ships systems functional.
We saw the best Russia could put into the field in its tussle with Georgia.
A rabble of drunken looting bums with no leadership at all.
The only way to learn to operate is to operate.
“I think the only reason the carrier is there is to get practice.”
Exactly. Only way to get practice is to practice. So they are doing it. Is it a shock that they aren’t practiced BEFORE? When the ship had mostly been gathering rust?
Russian naval aviation has been “fledgling” since the late 60s...
The U.S. Navy aircraft carriers are truly impressive, both in terms of men and equipment. I fear, however, that they will be sitting ducks when faced with the latest generation Russian and Chinese missiles.
They need the software upgrade/bug fix from the US (stolen, of course).
My soldiers were trained to do the job of their squad leader, platoon sergeant, and my job as the Platoon Leader.
That's what makes our armed forces so effective.
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