Posted on 11/30/2016 10:12:02 AM PST by MNDude
Before I taint your first thoughts, check out this FaceBook page made for ElPida refugee charity in Greece and then go down to read my comments about this charity..
https://www.facebook.com/elpidafactory/
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“You mean like the three kids offered up for “hot tub entertainment” as revealed by Wikileaks?”
Those children have alleged they were molested by the people “pizzagate” theorists are accusing?
“Sadly, the most innocent victims are the least likely to be discovered as victims, especially when their guardians are also molesters.”
So no actual victims have been found then?
“Not that I know of, but...”
That is a no, correct? No actual victims for the people the pizzagate theorists are accusing?
“Whatever attack there might have been on Project Veritas, it is absurd to suggest that Breitbart just happened to connect Podesta and 14 year-old sex slaves.”
How is that absurd when the tweets:
* Specifically reference Planned Parenthood, the target of Veritas’ investigation
* Specifically reference the Media Matters conference call that was held to defend PP about this video
* Specifically reference the people who were on that conference call
* Specifically reference the talking points that were discussed on that conference call
* Are from within days of the video release
* Correspond to articles on Breitbart’s website about the Veritas investigation
* The Veritas investigation was about trying to procure abortions for a supposed 14 year-old sex slave (who didn’t actually exist)
“There are probably 4-5 posts @voat explaining the Brietbart tweet and labeling other news stories as hoaxes. “
Yet we still have “pizzagate” believers here, right now, arguing passionately that these things are evidence for their theory. So whatever self-policing those guys are doing is not working. The bad info gets put out there, the believers pick it up and run with it, and they will never stop believing it, because it appeals to their confirmation bias.
“Can so many people from all around the world be deluded into making different, separate connections between the same individuals/venues over and over?”
Oh come on now. Can so many people be deluded into thinking that Donald Trump is a secret racist? People can be talked into any kind of hogwash if it appeals to their pre-existing biases.
“AFAIK, there is an FBI site (at least I have seen it posted several times) that has the various code logos. These are not the same as the food=abuse so-called codes.”
No, but the believers still run around saying the “pizza code” came from the FBI, or the NYPD, or just pretending that it is some well-verified thing.
It doesn't matter if the sex slave didn't actually exist, what clearly matters is that Planned Parenthood THOUGHT it did, and was willing to try to help keep that sex slave operation going by performing the hypothetical abortions while knowing they were sex slaves.
To say that's not related to the investigations that are going on is absurd.
Not that have been reported yet, but the investigation is just getting started. Why are you so upset that they might be, and doing your best to prevent them from being found?
Are you saying there can't possibly be any victims related to the Clintons and Podesta, just like those that said there was no way possible that Bill Clinton was having sex with an intern in the oval office for several months during that investigation?
Incorrect. Just yesterday in this very thread, a reference was made to a post on VOAT exploring the possibility that a convicted pedophile from Australia, who was in the US to play rugby, was the same rugby player pictured in the comet pizza owner's instagram.
Despite the rugby tie between the two, and the very close facial appearances, the posters on the VOAT thread became more of the belief it was someone else, who they think they have now identified. And this is what often happens on those threads, someone posts a lead and then they end up throwing many out, just as any investigative team would do. Meanwhile, you seem to have a problem with any investigation being done at all.
The misunderstandings in the state of the investigation are clearly due to the lack of honest national media coverage. Blame them, not those amateurs that are doing their work for them.
I know what you mean.
I have listened to Alex Jones for quite a few years now and he's always touched around the edges on this stuff. I always thought there was something to it but never gave it too much thought.
It certainly messes with your normalcy bias.
I would never have believed that I would choose to listen to Alex for news, but I do. I really appreciate that he breaks out 4”-15” segments w/o commercials so I can view the parts I am interested in.
He’s been right too often to ignore. My conclusion: he’s a drama queen with impeccable sources. I dial back the emotional quotient and try to evaluate the content on its own.
My husband sneered, at first, but Alex has won him over, too and he’s a tough sell.
The new normalcy bias: we have been living in the Matrix.
“Despite the rugby tie between the two, and the very close facial appearances, the posters on the VOAT thread became more of the belief it was someone else, who they think they have now identified.”
And yet, on this very thread right here, a poster just tried to tell me just the opposite, flatly claiming that a convicted Australian pedophile is in Alefantis’ instagram feed. So, no it’s not working. The true believers just pick up on what they want to believe and disregard anything that comes to light that may throw doubt on what they want to believe.
“Meanwhile, you seem to have a problem with any investigation being done at all.”
No, I have a problem with people running around making accusations with no evidence, and then, on top of that, attacking people for pointing out that they are making accusations with no evidence.
Update: Elpida just changed their logo! I’m glad Freepers here were able to see it live from their FaceBook before they did.
I think I was one of the few that got to see Alfantes’s Instagram account pictures before he made it go private. It gives it a whole different feeling to browse an account live vs. seeing someone share archived photos.
Saw that they changed it.
Besta Pizza changed theirs as well.
“Why are you so upset that they might be, and doing your best to prevent them from being found?”
Why are you lying about me now? I have never said anything like that. I have simply pointed out that people are accusing people of crimes, but have not even found the bare minimum standard of evidence that is required to make any sort of criminal accusation.
You want to tell me, on the one hand that the “researchers” doing this “investigation” are competent and responsible, and then you decide to start lying about me and trying to falsely attribute things to me that I have never said? That doesn’t make you look responsible or competent, it makes you look petty and vindictive.
“To say that’s not related to the investigations that are going on is absurd.”
How is it related? Do you think that Podesta or the owners of Comet Pizza were molesting this imaginary 14 year old?
Are you really that naive?
So it's your position that small children offered in a hot tub as "entertainment" to people who attend Satanic rituals and are suspected of being pedophiles is a normal thing -- got it.
Anybody remember Father Bruce Ritter? My mother suspected him for years - based on his tight blue jeans!
“So it’s your position that small children offered in a hot tub as “entertainment” to people who attend Satanic rituals and are suspected of being pedophiles is a normal thing — got it.”
LMAO, just because you suspect someone of being a pedophile (without showing any real evidence) doesn’t mean everyone else on the planet immediately has to believe it. Have those children, or anyone that actually knows them, alleged that they were molested by the people the pizzagate theorists are accusing? Yes or no?
So I take it you’re a Michael Jackson fan? How many of the kids aller news conferences to claim he molested them?
This is a pretty interesting development.
Arguments pro and con. On one hand, if my business had a logo that was associated with something horrible and I just learned about it, I’d change it, too. On the other hand, what is the probability that two businesses with personal connections to each other would both have such a logo and both change it at the same time?
The fact that they changed it means that the controversy is now in the public eye.
Well, with the Michael Jackson case, we had victims, witnesses, and even a near confession from Jackson himself on national television. So no, I don’t think there is much comparison here so far, since all of that is glaringly absent in the “pizzagate” case.
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