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I Love Mattis, But I Don't Love Him As SECDEF
War On The Rocks ^ | 25NOV16 | Erin Simpson

Posted on 11/25/2016 10:50:43 AM PST by Future Snake Eater

Among those in the Marine Corps I taught and deployed with, Gen. (ret.) Jim Mattis is a legend. The quotes, the foxholes, the knife hands. Everyone has their favorite story. I once handed Mattis a Diet Coke out of a cooler at Quantico. A mundane act? Yes. But I’ve remembered it fondly for 12 years.

He is Chaos, Mad Dog, and the warrior monk. But we should not add secretary of defense to that list.

I have long thought of Mattis as a “break glass in case of emergency” type of leader. He was uniquely suited to his roles in the early years of the War on Terror. He is a warrior and a leader of men in the application of violence. He is not, however, a man for all seasons. Many in defense circles have been so overjoyed as the prospect of a qualified secretary, that they seemed to have forgotten to stop and ask if Mattis would, in fact, be right for the job. He is not a politician, or a wonk, or a bureaucrat. To ask him to be any of those things would be like trying to keep a wave upon the sand.

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There are ultimately three primary reasons why we shouldn’t hope Chaos becomes secretary of defense.

1. Mattis a recently retired general and is therefore statutorily prohibited from serving as secretary of defense. And while a legislative solution is possible, this law exists for good reasons and overriding it bodes poorly for long-term civil-military relations.

2. Warfighters rarely make good bureaucrats. The Pentagon is one of the world’s largest bureaucracies, and Mattis has shown little patience for management and administration.

3. His boss won’t listen.

(Excerpt) Read more at warontherocks.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: dod; mattis; pentagon; secdef; trumpcabinet; trumpsecdef; trumptransition
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A different look at the possibility of Chaos 6 as SECDEF.

I find his reasoning to be rather soft.

1) There's a regulatory limit on putting Mattis in? OK, well, that's easy to sidestep. Rule Number One in the military: Everything's waiverable.

2) Mattis' hatred of bureaucracy could bog him down to ineffectiveness, or it could also inspire him to blast through it and simplify some ridiculous processes. Not to mention that if anyone thinks generals don't have to deal with bureaucracy then they clearly have no idea what they're talking about.

3) This is just a plain "I don't like Trump" reason. That's raw bias and useless as an argument.

1 posted on 11/25/2016 10:50:43 AM PST by Future Snake Eater
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To: Future Snake Eater

Thanks Erin. Now f off


2 posted on 11/25/2016 10:52:32 AM PST by Eddie01
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To: Eddie01

Is there something wrong with Diet Coke?


3 posted on 11/25/2016 10:55:05 AM PST by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors!)
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To: Future Snake Eater

After wasting time looking over the long list of contributors and editors of this site and not finding any mention of “Erin Simpson”, I can’t imagine why I should care what she thinks about anything.


4 posted on 11/25/2016 10:57:17 AM PST by bigbob (We have better coverage than Verizon - Can You Hear Us Now?)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Is this our modern day Patton? If so, he has my vote for SECDEF.


5 posted on 11/25/2016 10:58:20 AM PST by Hunterb
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To: Future Snake Eater

Hey, Snowflake, I am glad he frightened you. He did not get 4 stars because he was a wild cowboy. He did so because he knows every aspect of his business. I want him to intimidate our enemies with the fear of the Mad Dog.


6 posted on 11/25/2016 11:00:45 AM PST by HChampagne (Cruz supporter but I will support and vote for Trump.)
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To: Future Snake Eater

We don’t want a politician there and we certainly don’t have any need for patience with liberals after everything they’ve done. We need a true warrior with the will to destroy enemies. It’s time.


7 posted on 11/25/2016 11:01:13 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Hunterb

mine too.


8 posted on 11/25/2016 11:01:44 AM PST by The_Republic_Of_Maine (politicians beware)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Sgt wuterich actually did what Mattis said in the big talk “tears in my eyes” quote, and Mattis prosecuted him.

He also supports the Palestinians.


9 posted on 11/25/2016 11:03:11 AM PST by DesertRhino (November 8, America's Brexit!!!)
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To: Future Snake Eater

I like him better as Sec of State. Let him use all those books he read, 8000 at last count.

Best Friend or Worst Enemy sounds like a good new motto for the State Department.


10 posted on 11/25/2016 11:04:54 AM PST by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: DesertRhino
Sgt wuterich actually did what Mattis said in the big talk “tears in my eyes” quote, and Mattis prosecuted him.

Elections (and resultant ROE) matter.

11 posted on 11/25/2016 11:05:59 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater
"I have long thought of Mattis as a “break glass in case of emergency” type of leader. "

We are, and have been in a "break glass in case of emergency" situation since Bambi took office.

12 posted on 11/25/2016 11:12:49 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Future Snake Eater

It is hereby expressed as the intent of the Congress that the authority granted by this Act is not to be construed as approval by Congress of continuing appointments of military men to the office of Secretary of Defense in the future.

It is hereby expressed as the sense of the Congress that after General Marshall leaves the office of Secretary of Defense, no additional appointments of military men to that office shall be approved.


Based on this it seems to be saying that Congress did not ever want a military person in the SECDEF position. They don’t say anything about a time limit.

??


13 posted on 11/25/2016 11:17:46 AM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: Future Snake Eater

I really like that Cotton guy.


14 posted on 11/25/2016 11:26:19 AM PST by mtrott
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To: Eddie01

You can’t just put a ship level by straightening the wheel. You must counteract the inertia done during the turn. In other words, the sharp left turn we made must be followed by a right turn just to level out least for a period.


15 posted on 11/25/2016 11:26:36 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (NoHellary)
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To: Future Snake Eater

I very much respect Mattis as a warrior, greatly so!
I also would much prefer someone else in this role what with its policy-influencing aspects.

Just saying my view. I think Mattis could then be given a mission to lead up the utter, complete, and genuine destruction of ISIS (starting with cutting off Obama’s supply lines to them)

I bet Mattis could get the job done, and well, in less than 90 days. No messing around, no screwing around, no long land war in Asia, no ridiculous attempts at “nation building” just kill the demonic basturds and get out. Mission accomplished. For real.


16 posted on 11/25/2016 11:26:43 AM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Unfortunately, Mattis is seriously contaminated by his continuing seat on the BoD of the grossly fraudulent Theranos:

https://www.theranos.com/leadership/board-of-directors

His initial AND his continuing presence on this board shows EXTREMELY poor judgement. Personally, I wouldn’t want this old fool anywhere near the Pentagon (and before anyone here howls in rage at me, please take a close look at a few of the stories linked below):

https://www.google.com/search?q=theranos+mattis&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

https://www.google.com/search?q=theranos+fraud&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

https://www.google.com/search?q=theranos+walgreens&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=theranos+walgreens&tbm=nws

https://www.google.com/search?q=theranos+lawsuits&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

https://www.google.com/search?q=theranos+shultz&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjUt-3Z0sTQAhUCqFQKHQvUDb0Q_AUICCgB

https://www.google.com/search?q=theranos+wall+street+jounal&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=theranos+wall+street+journal


17 posted on 11/25/2016 11:31:59 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Future Snake Eater

President Trump should have a number of very capable people for Sec of Defense. He does not need to appoint this fellow(a great warrior but whose understanding of defense policy is, imho, worrisome).

just my 2 cents worth, and with today’s inflation that’s admittedly worth a lot less than it even sounds like..... ha!
I think President Trump has some excellent judgement and will, I hope, find someone more reassuring for this post.


18 posted on 11/25/2016 11:35:47 AM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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To: chaosagent

I think there is an accepted informal 7 year from service time limit. But I agree that from the founding of DoD Congress did not wish a command military man as SecDef. A notion I agree with. The uniformed military is ably, ehh sometimes not, represented by the CJCS. We do not need to confuse the CoC by adding a career command level military man to the second highest rung in the CoC.


19 posted on 11/25/2016 11:38:02 AM PST by xkaydet65
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To: Future Snake Eater

That’s nice......Trump won - he gets to pick.


20 posted on 11/25/2016 11:41:21 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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