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(June 2012) Why Ohio? The Numbers Don’t Lie (Bellwether States Revisited)
Smart Politics ^ | June 19, 2012 | Eric Ostermeier

Posted on 10/22/2016 11:55:14 AM PDT by Az Joe

"Talk about bellwethers: Ohio’s vote for the winning presidential candidate has deviated from the national vote an average of just 2.2 points since 1900 and only 1.3 points since 1964"

The Traitor-In-Chief Obama won OH by 2.9% in 2012 and nationally by 3.85%. If Trump is up or tied in OH then that is just about where the race is nationally right now.


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1 posted on 10/22/2016 11:55:14 AM PDT by Az Joe
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To: Az Joe

thats a good point..


2 posted on 10/22/2016 12:13:20 PM PDT by freespirit2012
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To: Az Joe
The youth of America in coming decades, when examining where the preservation of their liberty was yielded up, and by whom, may look to the now-Governor of Ohio as one whose personal judgment on the dangers of a presidency of Clinton, failed them and their posterity.
“Posterity! you will never know how much it cost the present generation to preserve your freedom! I hope you will make a good use of it.” - ― John Adams, Letters of John Adams, Addressed to His Wife"

"For himself (and only for a short time) a man may postpone enlightenment in what he ought to know, but to renounce it for posterity is to injure and trample on the rights of mankind.” - ― Immanuel Kant, (An Answer to the Question: What Is Enlightenment?)


3 posted on 10/22/2016 12:14:31 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Az Joe

when Clinton was ahead in Ohio it’s a bellweather state when Trump is ahead it’s no that important anymore because too many middle class whites....


4 posted on 10/22/2016 12:34:34 PM PDT by stockpirate (OBAMA MUST BE ON THE PAYROLL OF THE CLINTON FOUNDATION.)
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To: stockpirate

Nobody can win without Ohio. Unless of course you are Hillary!


5 posted on 10/22/2016 12:36:38 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: loveliberty2

Trump leading - national and Ohio per Rasmussen and IBT -

AND OHIO

http://heavy.com/news/2016/10/clinton-vs-trump-2016-presidential-polls-latest-national-hillary-new-battleground-states-swing/


6 posted on 10/22/2016 12:37:14 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (A Christian is as a Christian does - "By their works...")
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To: Az Joe
In 1964 Ohio was a good proxy for the nation. In 2016 it's poorer, less educated and significantly whiter than the nation as a whole.


7 posted on 10/22/2016 1:18:31 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Az Joe

The main difference is that Ohio has very few Asians and Latinos - a major difference between it and many other states. And probably a big reason why Trump is doing better in Ohio than he is elsewhere.


8 posted on 10/22/2016 1:20:30 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Az Joe

Speaking of bellwethers, I haven’t heard much about the bellwether counties and cities. Guess they’re all for Trump.


9 posted on 10/22/2016 1:28:18 PM PDT by Pollard (TRUMP 2016)
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To: Alter Kaker

Understood.

In the last 4 elections it has tended a bit towards Repub in comparison to the national vote but not enough to justify the current “lead” Clinton has in most of the national polls.

There is also the perhaps “significant” effect the 2 minor parties may have in OH and nationwide that may bring a different result this election.


10 posted on 10/22/2016 2:11:03 PM PDT by Az Joe (Desu Hoc Vult!! The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time....)
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To: Az Joe

The Clinton lead is mostly due to her doing much better than Obama in the South. She’s doing about the same in the rust belt, and worse in the Northeast. Our losses in the South and gains in the Northeast are mostly irrelevant - except we can lose North Carolina (and - huge maybe - Georgia) and could win New Hampshire and a delegate in Maine. But in the end does it really matter if we win Texas by twenty points or only ten points? Not really, but it has a big impact on national polls.


11 posted on 10/22/2016 2:27:33 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Az Joe
The TLDR:

Since 1944, Ohioans have sided with the losing candidate only once – opting for Nixon over Kennedy in 1960.

12 posted on 10/22/2016 3:40:55 PM PDT by Wayne07
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