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Anyone Watching Discovery's Taking Fire?
Discovery Channel ^ | September 2016 | Discovery Channel

Posted on 09/21/2016 10:55:19 AM PDT by Chainmail

New TV series about combat in Afghanistan


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans; Science
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; media; military
I hadn't seen anything yet from anyone about the new TV series Taking Fire on the Discovery Channel. It features helmet cam video from several members of the army's 101st Airborne in Combat Outpost Michigan in the Konegal Valley in 2010.

It's very good video and it shows the day-to-day activities of a very inexperienced army platoon led by a very experienced Sergeant First Class.

If any of you are from that unit or at least that era, a couple of questions:

The combat base is set up in a deep valley. Why not on a hilltop? Most known military tactics dictate using the high ground. Are we trying to replicate Dien Bien Phu?

There seems to be some reasonable available Air Force air support but no artillery or heavy mortar. Why not?

The platoon patrols both in the countryside and the small hillside villages and generally seem to wait until someone shoots before returning fire, even if they see military aged males watching them. Why don't they approach those military aged males and if they prove hostile, engage them?

No one seems to carry grenades. Don't we use them anymore?

I have watched several of their firefights and even though they do have 40mm grenades, no one ever seems to fire any. Is that also due to the rules of engagements? Most of the fighting appears to be rather ineffectual automatic fire in the enemy's guessed direction. Why doesn't the platoon have designated marksmen/snipers for better precision?

1 posted on 09/21/2016 10:55:19 AM PDT by Chainmail
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To: Chainmail
"Why not on a hilltop?"

"The high ground is no good without trees" - Earnest P Worrell

2 posted on 09/21/2016 10:59:28 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

One of the great strategic minds....


3 posted on 09/21/2016 11:01:22 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Truly... I’ve been waiting for years to be able to use that quote.


4 posted on 09/21/2016 11:02:51 AM PDT by DannyTN
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Uh, OK. Not completely positive I would have had Ernest P. Worrell anywhere near a weapon in my command.

Much easier to shoot down than have climb and shoot up.

5 posted on 09/21/2016 11:05:40 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail

I’d reckon they’re using 0bama’s battle plan—lose at all costs, and make America ever more weak and ineffective..


6 posted on 09/21/2016 11:17:07 AM PDT by W. (Damned steppid brain...)
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To: Chainmail

I’ve been watching and the program. Have similar questions, especially the apparent lack of snipers/designated marksmen. It’s rather surreal to see them shooting blindly into hills several hundred meters distant. I have a clearer picture of the frustration of our warriors who are using the 5.56 at ranges beyond the cartridges capability. The 7.62x51 machine gun is much better but it is not reliable as filmed. Couldn’t believe they observed snipers alone in the hills and nearby cornfields.


7 posted on 09/21/2016 11:29:25 AM PDT by mcshot (The "Greatest Generation" would never have allowed the trashing of our Republic.)
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I can’t bear watching anything related to current military activity anymore. These guys are hung out to dry by the current leadership.


8 posted on 09/21/2016 12:12:59 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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In the first episode, the M240 gunner left his gun unlubricated and didn't bring an oil bottle, so the gun seized up after some number of bursts. In my Marine Corps, that gentleman would be serving extra punishment duty/demoted to assistant gunner.

At the distances that Taliban is engaging them, the 40mm grenade launcher should be effective and a 60mm mortar would be golden.

No clue why they aren't using them. Does the army have 60mm mortars?

9 posted on 09/21/2016 12:46:41 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

You’re not the only one.

DC has put them in terrible harm’s way.

RE: “I can’t bear watching anything related to current military activity anymore. These guys are hung out to dry by the current leadership.”


10 posted on 09/21/2016 1:04:44 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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