Posted on 09/05/2016 4:06:17 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
The only ones they’re ordering removed are the ones that don’t actually kill bacteria. Seems fine to me, unless you really like having completely ineffective mislabeled products available for purchase.
I rarely use anti-bacterial soaps. Generally plain old bar soap. My wife likes some of the fancy homemade ones she buys from some friends who are in the business. I’m good with bars liberated from hotels.
Surprise, I’m still alive.
My family and I all have some allergy problems. I’ve kind of taken the approach of ignoring them and taking as little medication as possible. My allergy problems have greatly lessened over the years.
My brother was literally making his doctors Porsche payments with his kids. I think for the most part they are healthy now, but for a while, it seemed that all the meds had destroyed their immune systems.
One more thing, There’s a difference between germs and dirt. Both are good and bad for you.
When the STUPID FDA stops approving of horrible side effect riddled drugs it might be a useful agency. Then has to turn around and FLAG them or Black Box them as they begin to cause deaths and cancers. ALL Osteoporosis drugs are FDA FLAGGED with Forteo being also Black Boxed for Bone Cancer, Reclast IV is also NOT to be given to asthma patients but it is routinely. Not to mention the horrid GI Side Effects they cause. Crap never leaves your body.
Until then I’ll keep using just plain old fashion Fells Naphtha or Ivory bar soap. Eliminates all those nasty chems they put in soap.
There’s a difference?
Not a medical professional, but I don’t think you need to worry about following those instructions. The harm, apparently, is in regular use of antibacterial soaps, which, also kill off the good bacteria on your skin.
I like toothpaste with triclosan, so I’m stockpiling that before “big brother” bans that too.
Yes. Before every surgery I’ve had, scrubbing with antibacterial soap was required. So Uncle Sugar is going to take that away from us? Probably US will let us get it, but only via prescription. Prescription Dial. Gimme a break!
After every church service, even after slathering on hand sanitizer, I run to the sink and scrub with antibacterial soap. Those “hellos and handshakes” times can kill you, as DH and I discovered after being down with pneumonia picked up at church.
“It’s like folks who insist on antibiotic medications when they get a cold: it hardens the bacteria in their bodies while having no effect on the virus.”
I strongly suspect my viral infections of cold/flue spawn secondary infections involving bacteria. Why? Maybe it is the green/yellow snot that always goes with them. Or maybe experience has taught me a single dose of an antibiotic will leave me feeling great in 24 hours or less.
A vet treating my dog for a viral infection gave him an antibiotic. Said the antibiotic would deal with the secondary infection and allow the body to then concentrate on the virus.
All I can say is that a lot of experience tells me a single dose of antibiotic can turn my sinuses from having so much pressure that they feel like they are going to explode to feeling fine, often in 12 hours and almost always within 24 hours.
Quite a few years ago when I spent a bit of time studying up about flu, I did some research into antibacterial soaps vs just washing with regular soap. Interestingly, I found several studies had been done showing that vigorous handwashing with regular soap under running water got rid of as many bacteria as using antibacterial soap. And this really surprised me - washing vigorously under cold water, with no soap, for 1 minute, also got rid of as many bacterial as washing wtih soap or antibacterial soap.
It’s the washing action primarily that does it.
Correct! It is the triclosan, it is a hormone disrupter and likely is contributing to their gender ID crisis.
Your product wasn’t more effective. It was actually making stronger germs, which then you passed around to the rest of us...
There used to be only natural ingredients like aloe, camphor, and eucalyptus. Haven't read a label lately. Their FAQ page says "Noxzema Original Deep Cleansing Cream contains gelatin derived from pork sources." So, don't share it with your muslim friends. /s
“It’s the washing action primarily that does it.”
Bingo! That’s the bottom line. Soaps have surfactants that only aid in removal of dirt and germs, but it’s the washing AND rinsing process that actually removes such. However, there are some things that would take a VERY long time to remove without the help of soap or hot temperatures that would burn the hands.
I knew a lady who only used hand sanitizer after changing her baby’s diaper. She claimed that it got her hands as clean as washing them. I told her all she was doing was allegedly killing any ‘germs’ on her hands, but in effect was just smearing around the remaining ‘sterilized’ feces, dirt, and ‘dead’ germs. Without washing and rinsing, all that grime remained on her hands. The concept was too hard for her to grasp.
“Isn’t this the function of a free market? This is none of the business of the federal government.”
I’d say it’s the business of the government to make sure no fraud occurs. The claims of these soap manufacturers are fraudulent, aren’t they? They are promoting the anti-bacterial soap as healthy and good when in fact they are bad for us all.
I was emphasizing no anti bacterial additives in the product, which presumably cost more, once they were removed, the price went up. Seems to me a boon to the manufacturers.
Regarding the anti bacterial components, I think there was no data to support their use as being beneficial. Whether they are causing super germs I don't believe is resolved but in the absence of a showing they were beneficial, they were banned unless they show a benefit. Since they did not ban their use in hand sanitizers, I suspect this is more form than substance.
Also eliminated a few months ago from cleansers were the micro plastic beads which are causing water pollution of sorts. That was probably a good thing as there was no beneficial aspects to their usage while the downside was evident in water.
Just my observations and one further one, I don't deem myself a current day typhoid Mary based on my soap choices. If you fear the spread of germs, I suggest you lock yourself in a bubble.
“I find it incredible that in this information age we’re living in, we actually seem to be getting dumber as a people.”
I agree. People have access to so much information right at their fingertips, and yet seem to desire to remain ignorant.
“Some might say we’re doin’ that. “
The same ones that say that are voting for Hillary and think plants need electrolytes.
So, the government by FIAT can just dictate to an entire industry what to sell?
I was mostly questioning the idea that killing anything less than 100% of the bacteria leads inevitably to super-resistant bacteria. The world is more complex than that. The stronger bacteria will continue to exist and multiply regardless of what happens to the weaker bacteria.
“So, the government by FIAT can just dictate to an entire industry what to sell?”
The government, by FIAT I guess you could say, can enforce truth in advertising, and contracts. That’s a legit role of government.
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