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New Map Shows the Dark Side of Artificial Light at Night
http://www.scientificamerican.com/ ^ | June 10, 2016 | Lee Billings

Posted on 06/11/2016 8:53:26 AM PDT by samtheman

New Map Shows the Dark Side of Artificial Light at Night ... The most fundamental difficulty, however, has been that no one knows exactly how severe the problem is.

(Excerpt) Read more at scientificamerican.com ...


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: ajntsa; artificiallight; environment; green; milkyway; wackos
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I can predict how severe the liberal environmental wackos will find this problem: extremely severe.

I've been saying for year that they want us living in caves, eating turnips and riding donkey carts. I forgot to mention candles.

1 posted on 06/11/2016 8:53:26 AM PDT by samtheman
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I've been saying for years that they want us living in caves, eating turnips and riding donkey carts. I forgot to mention candles.
2 posted on 06/11/2016 8:54:48 AM PDT by samtheman (Trump For America.)
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Very enlightening.


3 posted on 06/11/2016 8:55:49 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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More than a third of humanity cannot see the Milky Way due to light pollution, and a new wave of energy-efficient lighting could make the problem much worse

Yet 90% wouldn't know they were looking at the Milky Way even if they could see it.

4 posted on 06/11/2016 8:56:26 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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“Map shows where civilization is located.”


5 posted on 06/11/2016 8:57:27 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Al Gore needs to get on this right away!


6 posted on 06/11/2016 8:57:33 AM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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We saw the back side of water once at disney world.


7 posted on 06/11/2016 8:57:50 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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I quit reading Scientific American back when they fired Forest Mimms for helping out a church group several years ago!
They are just another liberal rag these days!
8 posted on 06/11/2016 9:00:41 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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made me laugh


9 posted on 06/11/2016 9:01:24 AM PDT by samtheman (Trump For America.)
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Last year I saw the Milky Way like I’d never seen it before, from the northern most tip of New Zealand - no artificial light for many, many miles. It was amazing!


10 posted on 06/11/2016 9:01:57 AM PDT by Galatians513 (this space available for catchy tagline)
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Also, I noticed that they have mostly cut out comments, though a few of the blogs still occasionally have them.

I used to go on occasionally and argue against global warming. The regulars would go crazy at my posts.


11 posted on 06/11/2016 9:02:57 AM PDT by samtheman (Trump For America.)
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We saw the back side of water once at disney world.

Nah, they just wanted you to think that. It's all animitronics, and then they refill the back side of the water after the park closes at night.

12 posted on 06/11/2016 9:04:46 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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This light issue is a perfect example of the liberal problem. The forget why we have street lights to begin with. They forget why on a great many things.


13 posted on 06/11/2016 9:06:46 AM PDT by enduserindy (Republican's have sold the path, not lost it.)
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If only we were more like North Korea ...

14 posted on 06/11/2016 9:08:03 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Nation States seem to be ending. The follow-on should not be Globalism, but Localism.)
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I didn’t even read the whole article. I will. But I don’t wonder if they even mention the proven effect on crime. More light; less crime.


15 posted on 06/11/2016 9:08:28 AM PDT by samtheman (Trump For America.)
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Oh wait, we still have a place without artificial Light,
I must move there. I heard it's beautiful.


16 posted on 06/11/2016 9:09:19 AM PDT by Koracan
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Would it not be easier and cheaper to locate astronomers where there is not any light pollution rather than try to remake civilization to fit their needs?

On a scale of 1 to 10,000 the ability for me to see the Milky Way is around zero.

Civilization advanced greatly with electric lights, I see no reason to go backward.


17 posted on 06/11/2016 9:10:22 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (The government is the problem, not the solution.)
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Light pollution is no laughing matter, my FRiend.
Unfriendly alien life forms can now see us from light years away.


18 posted on 06/11/2016 9:15:31 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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Again, this issue is FUBAR because both sides are full of morons that dont get it.

One side calls it “light pollution”, which it is not. Pollution denotes something that is a waste product. Not only that, they then use the issue to push nonsense like “Earth Hour” or rolling brown-outs. They dont give a crap about “preserving the night sky”, they just want to push a nutty eco agenda.

The other side acts like unsheilded lights, that prevent the light from street lamps and floodlights from uselessly going straight up into the sky, are an affront to their constitutional duty to illuminate atmospheric haze at night...because otherwise we will be living in the stone age or they might get raped by bad guys that drop out of the sky....or something.

In the end neither side can get their heads out of their ass long enough to, and those of us that enjoy the wonders of the night sky are the ones that get screwed. Generations of young people never learn about it either.


19 posted on 06/11/2016 9:17:29 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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“Would it not be easier and cheaper to locate astronomers where there is not any light pollution rather than try to remake civilization to fit their needs?”

No. It would be easier and cheaper to cap the tops of street lights and point floodlights towards the ground, where the stuff you actually want to illuminate is located.


20 posted on 06/11/2016 9:20:27 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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