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J. Putnam Evans Thinks the AR-10 Is the World’s Best Battle Rifle
War is Boring ^ | June 1, 2016 | Matthew Moss

Posted on 06/01/2016 6:08:34 AM PDT by C19fan

In 1955, the small Californian firearms company ArmaLite unveiled one of the most defining and influential rifles of the 20th century — the AR-10. The hard-hitting rifle would see extensive service in bitter colonial conflicts and provide the basis for the M-16, one of the most iconic rifles of all time.

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TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: ar10; armalite; banglist; crap; guns; pos; rifles; weapons
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Fans of the FN FAL might disagree.
1 posted on 06/01/2016 6:08:34 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

All depends for what mission and who is using it...


2 posted on 06/01/2016 6:16:37 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: C19fan

Yes, we might.


3 posted on 06/01/2016 6:22:12 AM PDT by Noumenon ("Objects in history may be closer than they appear")
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Or the G3.


4 posted on 06/01/2016 6:22:37 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: C19fan

Or the AK.


5 posted on 06/01/2016 6:24:27 AM PDT by IronJack
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My M1A is more reliable but the AR-10, for me at least, is a bit more accurate out past 500 meters.


6 posted on 06/01/2016 6:24:47 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: IronJack

Is the AK considered a battle rifle since it uses a smaller cartridge?


7 posted on 06/01/2016 6:25:39 AM PDT by C19fan
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7.62x39 is still considered intermediate cartridge. So not battle rifle.

The FNH SCAR H is an awesome battle rifle.


8 posted on 06/01/2016 6:28:55 AM PDT by baltimorepoet
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To: circlecity

That gets my vote too.


9 posted on 06/01/2016 6:31:21 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: MrEdd

Agree, HK-91 is hard to beat


10 posted on 06/01/2016 6:34:06 AM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: C19fan

FALs are great fun, but the difficulty in mounting modern optics is a real issue.


11 posted on 06/01/2016 6:39:02 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: C19fan

FALs are great fun, but the difficulty in mounting modern optics is a real issue.


12 posted on 06/01/2016 6:39:03 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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Hmmm, it’s been a while since I’ve managed an inadvertent double tap on FR.


13 posted on 06/01/2016 6:40:09 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: circlecity

I did a reliablity test with my Armalite a few years ago. I bought a bunch of Portuguese surplus 7.62 battle packs. The powder did not burn clean at all leaving some pretty gritty residue. I went to the range and just started throwing lead to see how much of it my AR-10 would tolerate. Around the 200 round mark I could feel the bolt starting to bind during recoil and return to battery and needed to start tapping the forward assist. Got my first full malfunction (failure to eject around the 250 mark. I cracked it open, sprayed and wiped with some CLP and put another 50 rounds down range without a bobble.
I’m confident I would have had better results with cleaner, newer ammo, but with about 300 rounds of 7.62 in a light rifle, my black and blue shoulder had about all it would tke for the day :)


14 posted on 06/01/2016 6:40:25 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: IronJack

The AK lacks accuracy at long range. Not a problem for forces that don’t do marksmanship training (and only fight similarly trained opponents, ) but inadequate for combat where you have long fields of fire.


15 posted on 06/01/2016 6:44:20 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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The FN Fal has the same issue as the M14 on full auto. It’s uncontrollable.


16 posted on 06/01/2016 6:50:08 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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AR-10s have it all over the others in terms of accuracy.
Reliability hasn’t been an issue for the AR-10, since the first mags were STEEL. Much better than the original USGI, minority-contract aluminum 5.56 mags.

The ability to reliably and repeatably mount an optic? AR-10, easily.

The ability to easily free-float the barrel? AR-10.


17 posted on 06/01/2016 6:53:14 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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I don't know that the AK's shorter case (39 mm vs. the AR's 51 mm) puts it into a different class of rifle. If it does, then yes, I would guess the AK is designated as an "assault rifle," while the AR-10 would be a "battle rifle."

But then the M-16, the US military's standard rifle, would be classed as an assault rifle as well, where in fact it is used primarily as a battle rifle.

I think the distinction is negligible.

18 posted on 06/01/2016 6:54:03 AM PDT by IronJack
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.. the FN Fal has the same issue as the M14 on full auto. It’s uncontrollable ..

Same with the Armalite. You'd think the wood butt and fore end would help, weight wise? But the barrel climb is horrible, sight picture lost with the first round.

19 posted on 06/01/2016 6:57:00 AM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (We cannot allow Hillary Clinton to become the next Angela Merkel)
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My personal experience with AK's is that they are remarkably accurate for such a cheap weapon. True, they can't match the precision of an AR or an FN, but combat at extreme ranges (1000 meters +) is seldom conducted by small arms anyway. What you sacrifice in accuracy (at long distances) you more than make up for in reliability.

But I don't want this thread to deteriorate into a debate over the relative merits of the AK vs. its competitors.

20 posted on 06/01/2016 6:58:17 AM PDT by IronJack
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