Posted on 04/19/2016 11:49:04 AM PDT by pgyanke
Credit to Pookie18
I don't know about you but I'm sick and tired of this election season. FR has turned into a bickering board of bitter bubbleheads, it seems. Where we used to see Ted Cruz as a principled conservative... we now attack anyone who likes him as a "Cruzite" or "Cruzombie"... what happened?
First, there was the attack against him that he played dirty tricks in Iowa by relaying an MSM message that Carson was leaving the race. What would you do? If you are in a popularity contest against multiple opponents, wouldn't you make sure that the votes of an ideological brother weren't wasted on a failed effort? It's a logical reasoning... and you don't have days to debate it in committee, you have minutes and seconds before votes are tallied. That Cruz apologized at all for this news media-inspired fiasco shows him to be the bigger man.
Then what? He's following the rules and gathering delegates? I thought we wanted someone who knows how the game is played and can win elections... silly me. The Trump supporters don't seem to realize that DT is not the closer he claims to be. He is riding a wave of populism but is losing on the rules because he is disorganized and unprepared.
Saying all of this doesn't mean I am anti-Trump... I am anti-Dem whether the Dem is Hillary, Bernie, or Biden. Doesn't matter to me. If Trump is the eventual nominee, he will get my vote to stop the Dem machine's destruction of our great country.
In the primary, though, I want the most conservative in the race who has shown he knows how to win. That man is Ted Cruz. Why he is slimed on a conservative board is beyond me... and it saddens me. Maybe he isn't your guy... fine. Why does he have to be slimed? If he does manage to pull out an upset... what have you accomplished but hurting our best chance for conservative restoration in this country?
Cruz is an opportunist, not a conservative. He decided to play a conservative, because he figured that would get him elected president.
Many people are finally starting to see the truth, but some still refuse to see it.
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his friends and enemies from college all say the Ted you see today is the Ted we knew in college...very conservative..
by contrast Trump was a democrat when Cruz was in college. He was an independent when Cruz was working on republican campaigns. He Texas’ top lawyer when Trump was for partial birth abortions. He was running for senate when Trump was praising Obama and Hillary
>You backed away because “your guy” took a margin loan against his own assets to fund his campaign? If you don’t understand the mechanism, do some research. Don’t drop “your guy” because his opponents demonize him for every small detail they think can stick. It only sticks if you let it.
Ted’s still refusing to do the proper reporting on the loan despit his promises to do so. There’s something unethical there.
Choosing delegates to make decisions for the electorate is the essence of Republicanism... which we are supposed to be guaranteed by Article IV, Section 4 of the Constitution! The process in CO began at the grassroots and ended in a caucus... there is nothing undemocratic about it!
You are obviously free to trust or not trust Cruz, but you are not free to throw out absurd claims against Cruz unchallenged. Cruz is as strong, or stronger than Trump on the border issue, even if he does not talk incessantly about his “Big Beautiful Wall”. Cruz says he will actually enforce the current laws and deport illegal aliens. He also does not support “touch back” amnesty like Trump does. I’ll take the Cruz position any day!!
Why is Ted Cruz slimed? I can only answer for myself. I wanted him. Sent him a couple hundred. Was thrilled that a guy who fought for the Constitution in a place (Congress) that gives it only lip service was running for President! I was a fan of his.
Trump later resonated with me more because he was pinpointing our serious trouble with illegals, Muslim terrorists, and corruption in the parties / establishment. But I still would have been happy with Cruz. I was thrilled that we had at least two good candidates.
But then came Iowa. Cruz handled the mailers and the treatment of Dr. Carson so poorly, to our faces. His defense and pathetic apology was sleazy, no other word for it. But what really clicked me off him was his Victory speech after Iowa. He basically said Gd caused him to win and his opponents to lose. I hate when athletes do that, but I don’t think of most of them as geniuses. Cruz should have known better. That is not how Gd works. And the speech was so filled with self congratulation, so loooong. I thought his speech should be like a motivational speech to his voters, talking about the hard work ahead and such. Nope. Just a Sally Fields self love fest, is what it was.
From that moment forward, I started noticing that the values he spoke about in his televangelist style stump speeches were not ones he lived by. Once I saw that he was phony, I couldn’t unsee it. Real “good Christian men” don’t talk about it so much. They don’t preen themselves with their wondrous piety. When the scandal of his affairs (alleged affairs) broke, I followed the story of the Amanda chick. She clearly was alone with him often and late at night. Of course it all could have been honest hard congressional or campaign work. But put together with all of the things people who know Cruz were saying, and that his marriage is one of great separation, there was way too much smoke for none of the rumor to be true.
Master debater (whoops) Cruz was rattled enough to actually use the sentence, “Trump may be a rat, but I don’t desire to copulate with him.”
I voted for Cruz. My state went Trump. That was before Cruz inexplicably went along with an obvious BS story about Trump’s campaign manager mauling a woman to death while surrounded by secret service agents and hundreds of reporters and others. I also think Trump is a complete weirdo.
Freegards
I quite agree with you. Ted unfortunately was for TPP also.
“Theres something unethical there.”
Now there is a conspiracy theory if I ever heard one. Got any proof for your slander?
Was a big Cruz supporter. He ran for the Senate as a Tea Party member. Now, he seldom mentions the TP. He was against Amnesty. Now, he stays clear of the issue.
Sorry to Cruz supporters, but I think of this guy as just another politician. I no longer view him as a principled Conservative. I don't like the people he's surrounded himself with and I don't like the way he's ran his campaign.
If he ended up on top of the ticket, I would view him like I'd view a Jeb Bush or a Marco Rubio, which translates to me, I really don't care who wins, just more status quo.
With all that said, if the oh so clever GOPe is successful in their Stop Trump effort, all they're doing (for those of you truly care if it's R or D in office) is antagonizing a large portion of voters, which will lead to a “D” winning the Presidency.
If some still believe in the establishment GOP being better than the establishment Democrat, I'll remind you these same Republicans passed Omnibus Spending bills, support bigger government, ran against Obamacare yet kept funding it, and are solidly behind Amnesty.
I am glad there is an outsider running. I wish it wasn’t a complete weirdo who is obviously a successful and smart business man who decides to go on reality TV and pro-wrestling because he likes it. That’s pretty inexplicable to me. Why participate in that culture killing crap when you don’t have to?
Freegards
Without a border we have no country. Cruz will not defend the integrity of the border. Sorry, case closed.
Teddy boy would have never made it to the Senate under the rules established by the unamended Constitution first because he was born in Canada, and second because the State Legislature would have never put him in the Senate.
Ted's VAT tax doesn't pass muster under the original Constitution either but all the "back to the Constitution" folks don't actually go so far as to actually advocate repealing the 16th and 17th Amendments that make existing bloated Federal Government possible because they get fatter right along with the Federal Government getting fatter.
I wonder which one decided to play conservative? the guy that was conservative his entire life or the guy that changed most positions the last few years
I know Cruz’s previous positions on TPA, free trade, H1Bs and free trade. I don’t trust him to live up to whatever modifications he has made in the last few months. If not for Trump your Canadian anchor baby would not have changed on any of these matters. I do not trust Cruz plus a President Cruz will be too much in debt to the GOPe he is playing footsie with and stealing delegates.
Cruz is playing a sleazy, untrustworthy, delegate stealing game now in collusion with Rancid Preibus and the GOPe. He has shown his true character. And what up with his phony Elmer Gantry voice he has picked up?
I thought the same thing. FR has very little effect on any election.
I think the biggest our small group had on an election was the Swift Boat Vets. Somehow we really did go viral here enough to get the SBV word out about Kerry’s true “heroics.” That influenced more of the general public enough to keep Kerry out of the Presidency.
Cruz has a chance for a delegate from your area.
What shall see.
“mauling a woman to death while surrounded by secret service agents “
You would be more effective in arguing your case if you did not make ridiculous claims. You must not have actually heard/read what Cruz said in his brief remark about the incident. You should not just buy into the absurd posts here on FR by Trumpets.
LOL!
2ndDivisionVet: (Don't care if he was born in a manger on July 4th! A "Natural Born" citizen requires two US parents!)
Bottom line IS Cruz jumped into bed with GOPe first chance he got for money and backing!!! We want someone to BLOW UP DC, NOT BLOW DC!!! he is NOW owned by them he will do WHATEVER they say or THEY pull the plug on the MONEY TRAIN!!! They frankly don’t give a damn if Hillary is POTUS because it will STILL be status quo for the BASTARDS in DC!!! Cruz BETRAYED his base END OF CONVERSATION!!!!!
If we are in an oligarchy now, then we already don't have the Constitution.
Trump can't fix that. It's going to be up to the States - they created the federal government and they have to power control and correct it. Trump could help, but I don't have any confidence he will. He doesn't even trust them to manage public land.
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