Posted on 04/11/2016 6:50:39 AM PDT by Be Careful
As of late...Ryan's Fake Unity Message with comments galore, Reuter's Poll publishing 33% of Trump supporters will drop GOP, strange and random phone calls to Tea Party-types coming from RNC. All a ruse to data mine what their margins are.......they really are gonna go for it.
Surmising the same thing is happening on the Dem side, they will keep their alliance with DEMe, even if it means losing House and Senate.
Too much money at stake for the Uni-Party.
If we can't succeed, the Middle Class is truly done.
Bingo! you hit the nail square on the head with your statement
LOL, how true. Even if Trump had received 60% of the primary vote, that's not enough to win in the fall. Trump's a brilliant tactician with an ability to encapsulate his message in less than 140 characters, but his strategy reminds one of Pyrrhus.
The way Trump comports himself, his supporters on FreeRepublic have taken it as a green light to trash those who aren't on the Trump Train, and condoned on this site.
Cruz's biggest mistake? Engaging Trump on his level, turning the last couple of months into a death struggle for mating rights in the Brea Tar Pits.
I’ll take Trump and take our chances
I believe a lot of the tens of millions of Sanders voters may do the same.
None of them are going to vote for Ted or Paul Ryan which from an ideological standpoint must be very reassuring to you. Maybe in 2020, eh?
Honestly, if you really believe that, then FReepmail me. I have some real estate propositions I'd like to run by you.
I think Cruz’s battle against the establishment was more narrowly directed against particular individuals like McConnell. For that reason I think he can overcome whatever hard feelings there are to win the election. Trump POd not only the whole GOP Establishment but also a lot of the GOP rank and file. I could see it coming at the very beginning when he refused to commit to support the GOP nominee. He doesn’t seem to understand that if he refuses to commit himself to the GOP then the GOP will similarly refuse to commit itself to him. And that is how it worked out. And he surely can’t be surprised that the other candidates now refuse to support him if he’s the nominee. They are just giving him his own medicine.
Why did the Founding Fathers give us a Republic, with its system of ordered liberty. instead of giving us a plebiscitary democracy?
Because they had studied the fates of various democracies and republics throughout human history, and they realized that a democracy was prone to takeover by unprincipled and dangerous demagogues like Juan Peron, Huey Long and Hugo Chavez.
Will our Constitutional Republic outlive the current political turmoil, with petty demagogues like Hillary, Bernie and The Donald waiting in the wings? We'll certainly survive for a few more years, even under a Hillarian, Sanderian or Trumparian regime.
But if you're thinking about the situation in 2030 or thereabouts, I guess I'd wanna be a short seller.
If I don't have to watch and listen to Mr Dark for months, I'll take the 50 state loss for $500,000 to Amanda Carpenter, Alex.
By the pricking of my thumbs, something Cruzty this way comes.
>> What about the sitting senator named Cruz who refers to the GOPe as the Washington Cartel <<
He holds no doubt to the old maxim that there are “no permanent enemies in politics.”
>> If I don’t have to watch and listen to Mr Dark for months <<
Is that my wife, posting under a new pseudonym? Sounds just like her.
But anyway, don’t worry. Just relax, lean back and learn to enjoy it.
GOPe better hope they are right because when it comes to actual voters going to polls, Cruz will lose... Big time.
If the “R” wing of the UniParty is still using Gravis as their pollsters they are in for a surprise. Gravis has been known to tell their clients what they think the client wants to hear. That’s why Rove, et al in 2012 were telling FNC that Romney had Ibunga beaten, never expecting the shellacking he got on Election Day.
I think if GOPe goes 3rd Party, Trump will win in a landslide, and will then OWN the real Republican Party; lock, stock, trigger, ammo clips, scope sights and sling.
If either Trump or the GOPe goes third party none of the three candidates will get 50% of the electoral college votes. This will land the election into the House of Representatives, controlled by the Republicans, and will result in a Republican (most likely Ryan)president.
I suggest you read Cruz's book, A Time for Truth. He essentially is saying that the "Washington Cartel" is corrupt and it includes his own party. He pointed to last year’s debate over the debt ceiling as an example of how Senate Republicans sold out conservative principles.
The fact that Lindsay Graham, a member of the Gang of 8, now endorses Cruz should send up red flags. Cruz is tool of the GOPe who want a contested convention and will do anythiung to stop Trump, the only true outsider in the race.
Trump POd not only the whole GOP Establishment but also a lot of the GOP rank and file. I could see it coming at the very beginning when he refused to commit to support the GOP nominee. He doesn’t seem to understand that if he refuses to commit himself to the GOP then the GOP will similarly refuse to commit itself to him.
They made him and the other candidates sign a loyalty oath and now there are Reps including Kasich and Cruz who refuse to say if they will support him if he is the nominee. You have Romney getting involved in the race supporting Kasich in Ohio and Cruz in Utah. The perfidy lies in the GOPe, not Trump.
And he surely can’t be surprised that the other candidates now refuse to support him if he’s the nominee. They are just giving him his own medicine.
Well, I hope that those other candidates realize that the enthusiastic and very loyal Trump supporters who comprise the largest share of the voters in the primary so far (37%) will give these other candidates a serious dose of their own medicine if they succeed in the stealing the nomination from Trump at the convention. It will be political suicide.
Trump could get a number of wrestlers and football players for the delegates he does control. Then some pencil necked Cruz stooge who cheated could feel some intimidation, all in his mind. A 300 pound defensive lineman can just look intimidating. But grunting and snorting in and of itself is not intimidating. It’s all in the mind.
You need to brush up on your Constitution. The candidate who receives an absolute majority of electoral votes (currently 270) for the office of president or of vice president is elected to that office. The Twelfth Amendment provides for what happens if the Electoral College fails to elect a president or vice president. If no candidate receives a majority for president, then the House of Representatives will select the president, with each state delegation (instead of each representative) having only one vote.
In this event, the House of Representatives is limited to choosing from among the three candidates who received the most electoral votes. Each state delegation votes en bloc – each delegation having a single vote; the District of Columbia does not receive a vote. A candidate must receive an absolute majority of state delegation votes (i.e., at present, a minimum of 26 votes) in order for that candidate to become the President-elect. Additionally, delegations from at least two-thirds of all the states must be present for voting to take place. The House continues balloting until it elects a president.
The House of Representatives has chosen the president only twice: in 1801 under Article II, Section 1, Clause 3 and in 1825 under the Twelfth Amendment.
Reason enough to select someone outside the political class.
>> Reason enough to select someone outside the political class <<
Please explain the logic of that comment. Or did you purposely posit a non-sequitur?
what makes you think the GOP will win the house?
Maxim: noun
1. an expression of a general truth or principle, especially an aphoristic or sententious one: the maxims of La Rochefoucauld.
2. a principle or rule of conduct.
The maxim you cited represents an element of truth in politics. Trump is not a politician. Cruz and Kasich are. It is the reason why we have a political class that is bought and paid for by their corporate paymasters and special interests. The political class is despised by the voters because they are willing to sacrifice the interests of the people and the nation by compromise/surrender of their principles and reneg on their promises to the voters. It is the reason why we have the Uniparty that no longer represents the people. The recently passed Omnibus bill is an example.
What I like about trump is that he is hated so much and at least a half billion in hate trump commercials and other methods yet is still standing tall and winning with the voters. I would much rather take our chances with trump then Cruz who gets his delegates from tightly run caucus’ and weird state conventions with delegates voting. If America is on its deathbed, let’s see how America takes that seriously.
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