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The GOPe has Screwed the Pooch (Sargon's vain analysis)
self | 3/30/2016 | self

Posted on 03/30/2016 4:47:20 PM PDT by sargon

In my humble opinion, the Republican party has effectively and totally destroyed itself with its relentless character assassination vendetta against its own frontrunner, Donald Trump.

There will be no recovering from this. Here are the only possible scenarios I can see, as we finish the primary season and move into the GOP convention:

Scenario #1: The only scenario that has the potential to expand the GOP demographic base permanently and beat Hillary is for Donald Trump to win the nomination and face Hillary in the general election, either with a clear majority or a near majority of delegates.

Scenario #2: Ted Cruz wins the GOP nomination fair and square, without jumping into bed with the GOPe. In that case, his narrow demographic base probably dooms him, but at least voter enthusiasm is preserved. Unfortunately, this scenario has already been obviated by the fact that the GOPe is demonizing Trump nonstop, infuriating his voters, and Ted Cruz has adopted the Establishment tactics wholeheartedly, which alienates Donald Trump voters who otherwise might be willing to support Ted Cruz.

Scenario #3: Ted Cruz wins the nomination with the help of the GOPe, either by getting a majority of delegates or by leapfrogging the frontrunner at the convention. This scenario still results in a candidate with a vary narrow base who likely can't overcome the demographic realities which accrue to the benefit of the Democrat party. Furthermore, this scenario also results in furious Trump voters who believe in their hearts that the nomination was stolen as a result of the constant character assassination directed at Donald trump.

Scenario #4: The convention is contested and someone other than Trump or Cruz is nominated. In this case, voters from both of the leading candidates are furious with the party, and enough of them stay home for Hillary to win easily.

So that is my analysis.

It looks very much to me like the "Anybody But Trump" movement is beginning to succeed. Unfortunately, that "anybody" is going to be Hillary Clinton, unless she's indicted, in which case any of the above scenarios could still, theoretically at least, result in a GOP victory.

Barring that, however, the only scenarios that could succeed are scenarios number 1 & 2.

And, as I have already noted, scenario #2 has already been destroyed by the GOPe, with Ted Cruz acting in full complicity.

Thus, conservatives' best hope is scenario #1, just like it has been for the last few months. It is the only scenario still possible that preserves voter enthusiasm, expands the GOP tent, and wipes out Hillary in the general election.

Since scenario #1 is itself becoming less likely now, IMHO, and due to the causes I've outlined, this leaves me with the inescapable conclusion that the GOPe has already screwed the pooch. The GOP will not win the White House in 2016 absent Trump at the top of the ticket. It could have won with Cruz possibly, but only in the case where Cruz remained an anti-Establishment candidate, and didn't adopt the Establishment tactics being used against Donald Trump. It's already too late for that, of course.

I'm convinced that the GOP will be content to remain in marginal power by controlling the House and perhaps still the Senate. That will allow them (with Hillary in the White House) to preserve the system as it is, where both parties scratch each other's backs, put up token opposition on various issues, and everybody just keeps enriching themselves at the expense of the People.

For doing what they have done, the GOP deserves to die a painful and lingering death. I, for one, am done with the Party, and will never register as a Republican again: not even to vote in their closed primaries. I'll stick with being a registered independent.

It saddens me very much to write these words, because, only a few short months ago, we had 2 candidates with the potential to lead a desperately-needed Revolution in American politics and culture.

But, alas, I believe it is not to be. The GOPe has overplayed their hand to the point where they have destroyed the party's chances for every possible scenario, except for the one case that appeared like it would happen: Donald Trump winning the nomination.

Now, Donald Trump bears some responsibility for this, as does Ted Cruz, for different reasons.

But the real villain in this tragic sequence of events is the GOPe: Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush, Lindsay Graham, John McCain, Bob Dole, the National Review, and all of their elitist ilk.

Yes, folks, I'm still hopeful that somehow something positive will come from the criminal and treasonous Establishment proceedings that we all have been watching before our very eyes. But I doubt it.

It looks like the Revolution will have to wait for at least another four years. That's good enough for the Establishment. As long as they can always delay the inevitable, the inevitable becomes impossible.

The hatred that I feel for the GOPe burns within me with a passion that will never die. Indeed, it only waxes stronger with each Machiavellian shenanigan they pull. It will be on full display at the GOP convention as well, of course.

I can't help but feel a profound sense of loss in looking at the state of affairs that we have arrived at.

No matter what happens at the convention, there will be large masses of GOP voters who will feel totally betrayed by the party leadership, and this will carry all the way through to the general election cycle.

All is lost, IMHO, and I say that as a realist, not a pessimist.


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KEYWORDS: 2016election; donaldtrump; gope; tedcruz; vanity
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To: sargon

It’s time to rally around Kasich. /s


21 posted on 03/30/2016 5:04:03 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Hugin

+++++!


22 posted on 03/30/2016 5:04:50 PM PDT by gogeo (Donald Trump. Because it's finally come to that.)
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To: Diogenesis

Have to be personal again... this faggot in your #11 is one goofy looking dumb frump.


23 posted on 03/30/2016 5:05:19 PM PDT by Mr Apple ( CNN: NOW HIRING DECEPTIVE BAISED MODERATORS)
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To: xenia

If, in 2012, the GOPe had worked as hard to beat The Won as they’re working now to beat Trump, President Romney would be running for reelection today.


24 posted on 03/30/2016 5:07:37 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: frankenMonkey

I agree that number two is not viable, and really, if Cruz is the nominee at this point he is completely doomed in the general. As soon as the Cruz/MSM/GOPe coalition is done twisting reality to bury Trump, Cruz’s new BFFs are gonna turn right around and put MistressGate on the frontpages 24/7, and I think there’s probably something there, based on his reluctance to affirm his fidelity. That on top of all of his GOPe pandering in the campaign and his uniparty Senate votes, I’ve lost all respect for Cruz. He’s a total, 100% sellout and fraud.

If Trump doesn’t win, the uniparty wins. Again. No shock there.


25 posted on 03/30/2016 5:08:28 PM PDT by 20yearsofinternet (Border: Close it. Illegals: Deport. Muslims: Ban 'em. Economy: Liberate it. PC: Kill it. Trump 2016)
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To: sargon

And they are not done yet — they sold out to the Dems for $$$$, to ensure a Hillary presidency.

Just look at this:

GOPe is in bed with the Democrats for a Hillary presidency.

See:

Tech billionaires (major Dem donors) plot with GOP leaders at exclusive island resort to stop Trump

http://nypost.com/2016/03/08/tech-billionaires-plot-with-gop-leaders-to-stop-trump-at-exclusive-island-resort/


26 posted on 03/30/2016 5:09:42 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: xenia

Trump is doing well because “we, the people” outnumber the “establishment elites”...

It is the “silent majority” that is becoming “unsilent” for the first time and the “elites” had better take note...This will not end in November...Just sayin’.....


27 posted on 03/30/2016 5:09:43 PM PDT by JBW1949
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To: sargon
Somebody talk me down, please.

I'm sitting on the rooftop beside you.

On the other hand I am a pan-ist.

I think it will all pan out the way God wants it to in the end.

That gives me hope.

28 posted on 03/30/2016 5:11:21 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: JPJones
I would add: they will sabotage Trump, then blame Trump supporters for the upcoming loss to Hillary. And the MSM will play along with that explanation.

The GOPe puts up candidates that cannot win... well, I guess they misjudged when they put Bush up and he won despite their desire. The GOPe does not want a winner. Maybe it's been infiltrated by Democrats.

29 posted on 03/30/2016 5:11:42 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: freespirit2012

“I like your thinking... “

Thanks. Just thinking out loud, but perhaps an Alinsky-type effort to single out and oust say, Romney, from the party would be in order.


30 posted on 03/30/2016 5:13:04 PM PDT by JPJones
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To: DuncanWaring

“If, in 2012, the GOPe had worked as hard to beat The Won as they’re working now to beat Trump, President Romney would be running for reelection today.”

You are absolutely correct.


31 posted on 03/30/2016 5:14:44 PM PDT by xenia ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." George Orwell)
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To: freespirit2012
where was the “NeverRomney” crowd? that could have saved us...

Perhaps you were not reading FR during that time, there were LOTS of 'never Romney' people. Many voted for the Constitution Party. In fact, we heard all about how the Virgil Goode was going to have a real impact because of all the folks that were 'never Romney' were gonna vote for him. Ofcourse it turned out that Goode was a nonfactor, but I'm sure he got some votes from here.

32 posted on 03/30/2016 5:15:38 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: sargon

Our Man Ted needs to man-up and understand hat he cannot win alone, under any circumstance. The best for him would be to MAKE THE DEAL with The Donald.
A unified, guns-blazing Trump/Cruz ticket would easily win 45 plus states.

As a not-NBC, it is his ONLY opportunity to save our Republic from Her Thighness.


33 posted on 03/30/2016 5:21:16 PM PDT by Macoozie ("Estoy votando por Ted 2016!" bumper stickers available)
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To: sargon

Unfortunately your whole analysis can be boiled down to “vote Trump”.

I mean, that is all you are really saying right? If Trump isn’t the nominee you think the country goes to hell in a handbasket.

But people like myself who support Cruz see Trump as an utter disaster as a general election candidate. I see absolutely no path for victory for Trump, he has simply alienated too many people. You can’t have 3/4’s of women in this country view you very unfavorably and expect to win. Other than white males, I think Trump loses every demographic. And no, Trump is not like Reagan at all. Let’s put that nonsense to rest. Reagan had electoral experience, Reagan was a grounded ideological conservative and Reagan didn’t spend an entire campaign trashing, belittling, insulting, bullying and otherwise alienating every other candidate in the field.

So you support Trump and your analysis is basically “vote Trump or everything goes to hell”. I mean that is the standard line of just about everyone who supports Trump at a gut level.


34 posted on 03/30/2016 5:22:48 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: sargon

Pretty much sums it up for me also. I actually believed prior to this election that most Republican congressman were decent people. I poo poo’d the THEY ARE ALL PART OF ONE PARTY mantra. This election exposed them for who they really are.


35 posted on 03/30/2016 5:23:07 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru Him all things are possible.)
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To: Macoozie

A “not-NBC” is not eligible to be VP.


36 posted on 03/30/2016 5:24:50 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: freespirit2012

I don’t see how that would have made much difference one way or the other.

Running against an incumbent president in 2012 also, but not now. You’d think anyone running against Hillary or Bernie would be a slam-dunk, but I have serious doubts the way things are going. No party unity whatsoever.


37 posted on 03/30/2016 5:26:31 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: sargon

Trump and Cruz MUST get together and make a DEAL.

The outline is simple:

1. Because of age difference, Cruz is VEEP and gets the second 8 years. He badly needs some seasoning anyway.

2. Trump tips his MAGA hat to Cruz and commits to strict constructionist Justices and rescinding virtually 100% of Obama executive orders.

3. Cruz throws in the towel on global trade deals, much like GHWB gave up his pro-Choice position to run with Reagan.

4. The two men announce they see eye-to-eye on Obamacare, immigration, tax reform, many other things.

5. Cruz to be the Czar of downsizing federal govt. and especially workplace and environmental regulations.

6. Trump as POTUS of course leads on foreign policy. Cruz to get that chair in January 2025 if plan goes well.

7. The two couples spend a long weekend together on Trump’s yacht (or one of his billionaire cronies). They all emerge as buds.

8. Trump announces this will give the dems 4 years at least in which to contest Cruz’s eligibility as NBC.

If the GOP will not go along with this scheme, they immediately go 3rd party.


38 posted on 03/30/2016 5:26:42 PM PDT by Disestablishmentarian
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To: sargon
"Scenario #4: The convention is contested and someone other than Trump or Cruz is nominated."

I believe this is why Kasich is hanging around.

{tinfoil hat} It is hinted or implied strongly by the GOPe that after Trump and Cruz fall short of 1237, that Kasich will be the "compromise candidate" due to his 3rd place vote totals and enuff released delegates after the first ballot to put him over the top.{/tinfoil hat }

39 posted on 03/30/2016 5:27:36 PM PDT by dynachrome (We have multiplied our possessions, but reduced our values.)
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To: dynachrome

They may designate Kasich, but I ain’t voting for him.


40 posted on 03/30/2016 5:30:36 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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