[PROCON]

I wake-up each morning and find that I'm further into the Twilight Zone.

[Sacajaweau]

Insane....

[pepsionice]

Perhaps one should ask if they put this up for a bid, or have hired some Senator’s friend for the job.

[Uncle Miltie]

I’ll do it for half that.

[MeganC]

They’re going to spend maybe $10,000 on moving the tortoises and then use this as an opportunity to explain away $49,990,000.00 in black operations expenses.

[headstamp 2]

government in action

how much equipment or medical care could this buy?

[Larry Lucido]

"Is anyone here a desert biologist?"

[mad_as_he$$]

Paging Cliven Bundy.

[Mastador1]

Wouldn't it be cheaper just to kill them and pay the fine?

Okay I'm not serious, but I bet it would be.

[going hot]

Where do I sign up, have wheel barrow, will travel!

[Secret Agent Man]

I wish it was half the cost of an f35-b.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

You cannot move turtles from their home territory and have them survive.

They will spend the rest of their lives trying to get back home.

[Rusty0604]

Where are they moving them to, Saudi Arabia?

[lacrew]

The desert tortoise has been used as an effective weapon of the government for 40 years. Large areas of Fort Irwin are off limits to it. And remember the grazing restrictions that ultimately led to the Cliven Bundy stand-off? That's right, those restrictions were due to the desert tortoise. So our military can't train around the turtle... Cattle can't graze around the turtle... Is there any activity that is important enough to bypass these federal regulations? Yes, of course. Lets say a crony capitalist company wanted to use a $1.6 BILLION dollar federal loan guarantee and build a solar plant in the desert...right in the middle of turtle country. Well, that won't hurt the turtle. Reminds me of Mecca.

[rdcbn]

I wake-up each morning and find that I'm further into the Twilight Zone.

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So True.

Of course, what remains unspoken is that the military has been using 29 Palms for training and maneuvers since the 1920’s and was the site of massive training operations during the WWII period and still there are plenty of Desert Tortoises living on the ranges and doing fine despite a near century of military activities.

All the BLM has done is ensure that the Desert Tortoises still left in 29 Palms ecosystem will become extinct due to the BLM engineered population collapse, along with any other members of the ecosystem that rely on the desert tortoise for it's survival

[Snickering Hound]

[centurion316]

Drop in the bucket. If you travel along paved highways in the Mojave, you will frequently see the little fences, about 6” high, along both sides of the highway. at intervals, there is an underpass from one side to the other for the convenience of desert tortises desiring to cross the road.

If you spend a lot of time in the desert, you will observe that there are quite a few of these little buggers. The census people either did their surveys in the Walmart parking lot, or they went to the only parts of the desert missing these creatures. The only life forms threatened are the taxpayers.

[TexasFreeper2009]

Hell, I’ll move em for $40,000 each!

[Zack Attack]

Many of the turtles have mortgages or second mortgages. I suspect most of the cost here is tied into buying out debts.

But I agree, more madness though the shock value left me years ago with the $25,000 hammers.

[huldah1776]

Yup, I believe it. During training if they came across one they had to stop everything and call in a rescue team. If the turtle pees (which they all do—I used to rescue the boxers in MO that were crossing the road. B4 they got squashed), if the desert turtle pees, they die from lack of fluids.

Hey, at least the boots were learning about the restrictive Rules of Engagement before going to the front./s kinda

[ntnychik]

Jeb! the turtle fancier should weigh in on this, now that he has time on his hands.