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The Truth about Trump
www.freerepublic.com ^ | 12 March 2016 | impimp

Posted on 03/12/2016 5:38:14 AM PST by impimp

China and other countries want to sell me goods at a cheap price. Trump wants to put a stop to that in order to appease the visible victim, the angry unemployed widget worker. The invisible victims are much greater in number and any tariff or "fair trade" is awful for them. Who in their right mind complains when something is getting sold at a cheap price?

It is time to put America first and stop Trump from increasing the price Americans pay for foreign goods.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: brainwashed; cuckservative; globalist; imgopepimp; trump
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To: impimp
China and other countries want to sell me goods at a cheap price.

No; they want do it at a HIGH price!

So why don't they?

First, you sell SO low that domestic stuff ends; THEN you raise your prices to a level where the domestic won't be able to begin again without a steep up-front cost.

101 posted on 03/12/2016 3:14:02 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: impimp
China and other countries want to sell me goods at a cheap price.

No; they want do it at a HIGH price!

So why don't they?

First, you sell SO low that domestic stuff ends; THEN you raise your prices to a level where the domestic won't be able to begin again without a steep up-front cost.

102 posted on 03/12/2016 3:14:12 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: jospehm20
You do realize that we can no longer produce all the stuff we need for our military?

Oh?

What do we NEED?

103 posted on 03/12/2016 3:15:25 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: impimp

Apple just came out with Ibuggywhip Version 1.0


104 posted on 03/12/2016 3:16:53 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: miss marmelstein

Why didn’t YOU buy the higher priced one on the shelf?

http://www.walmart.com/search/search-ng.do?search_query=Toasters&adid=22222222224211443932&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=3535191143&wl1=e&wl2=toasters%20walmart&wl3=15083849287&veh=sem


105 posted on 03/12/2016 3:18:35 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Disestablishmentarian
$500 billion ANNUAL trade deficit with China

And just WHERE can China SPEND this money?

106 posted on 03/12/2016 3:19:53 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
And just WHERE can China SPEND this money?

They could jack residential real estate up so high we could all become a nation of renters like Europe is right now.

107 posted on 03/12/2016 3:21:30 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Elsie

>>And just WHERE can China SPEND this money?<<

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Anywhere but here, apparently, although they have a lot of it parked in the U.S. Bond market — a globalist money machine.


108 posted on 03/12/2016 3:23:40 PM PST by Disestablishmentarian (.)
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To: norwaypinesavage
President Kennedy had it right when he said (of the world economy): "A rising tide lifts all boats".


 
 
 
In his memoir Counselor: A Life At The Edge Of History, Kennedy's speechwriter Ted Sorensen reveals that the phrase was not one of his or the president's own fashioning. It was in his first year working for Kennedy (during JFK's tenure in the Senate), when Mr. Sorensen was trying to tackle economic problems in New England, that he happened upon the phrase. He writes that he noticed that "the regional chamber of commerce, the New England Council, had a thoughtful slogan: 'A rising tide lifts all the boats.'" From then on, JFK would borrow the slogan often. Sorensen highlights this as an example of quotes mistakenly attributed to President Kennedy.[5]

109 posted on 03/12/2016 3:23:40 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: norwaypinesavage
"A rising tide lifts all boats"

A falling tide grounds some of them.

110 posted on 03/12/2016 3:24:17 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: impimp
List all of the countries in history who improved their lot by increasing tariffs and reducing trade.

The USA from 1789 to 1913. The USA went from no industry at all to an industrial powerhouse in the 19th century. All the while tariffs funded the federal government and protected US industries. The biggest plus NO INCOME TAX.

111 posted on 03/12/2016 3:27:51 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: impimp
List all of the countries in history who improved their lot by increasing tariffs and reducing trade.

China 1980 to present.

China nas one of the most closed markets to foreign manufactured imports in the world. Under this extreme protectionist system they went from peasant rice farmers to an industrial power house.

112 posted on 03/12/2016 3:31:08 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: impimp
High tariffs and nationalism = great depression

Rewriting history spreading the Smoot-Hawley lie?

113 posted on 03/12/2016 3:32:43 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Attention all Widget Workers!

Your product may go obsolete soon.

Do NOT be left behind that ol' eight ball!!

Get off the couch from whatin' all them sports and get some TRAINING in a new field in yer spare time!!!


Carrier workers in Indianapolis:

"We didn't see it coming; as we were VERY well paid."


 
 
 
 

"I came here 30 years ago looking for the American dream," said Hatice Lancaster, 51, originally from Turkey. "Maybe I should have gone to Mexico instead."

Chuck Jones, president of United Steelworkers Local 1999, which represents the Carrier workers, said he hopes to use the attention to force Carrier to reverse its decision.

Jones faces a steep climb. Carrier has told the union it can pay Mexican workers $3 an hour versus more than $20 on average in Indianapolis.

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-carriercorp-layoffs-idUSKCN0VS02H

114 posted on 03/12/2016 3:33:33 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: impimp

Change your name to PimpPimp


115 posted on 03/12/2016 3:34:15 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: impimp

I cut and trim my goats hooves.

Some of the things I get called are...


116 posted on 03/12/2016 3:35:27 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: impimp
Would those workers be better off working or not working in these poisoned hellholes you speak of?

That is the point isn't it? US citizens are under no obligation to gave a damn about the economic conditions of any other countries citizens. Nobody should give a rats ass about the Chinese people. As far as I can tell the gooks are trying as hard as they can to be our enemies.

117 posted on 03/12/2016 3:44:40 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Disestablishmentarian

Reagan did take on this issue.

Words are not deeds. Unfortunately, a look at the (Reagan)record leads to the question: With free traders like this, who needs protectionists?

Consider that the administration has done the following:

— Forced Japan to accept restraints on auto exports. The agreement set total Japanese auto exports at 1.68 million vehicles in 1981-82, 8 percent below 1980 exports. Two years later the level was permitted to rise to 1.85 million.(33) Clifford Winston of the Brookings Institution found that the import limits have actually cost jobs in the U.S. auto industry by making it possible for the sheltered American automakers to raise prices and limit production. In 1984, Winston writes in Blind Intersection? Policy and the Automobile Industry, 32,000 jobs were lost, U.S. production fell by 300,000 units, and profits for U.S. firms increased $8.9 billion. The quotas have also made the Japanese firms potentially more formidable rivals because they have begun building assembly plants in the United States.(34) They also shifted production to larger cars, introducing to American firms competition they did not have before the quotas were created. In 1984, it was estimated that higher prices for domestic and imported cars cost consumers $2.2 billion a year.(35) At the height of the dollar’s exchange rate with the yen in 1984-85, the quotas were costing American consumers the equivalent of $11 billion a year.(36)

— Tightened up considerably the quotas on imported sugar. Imports fell from an annual average of 4.85 million tons in 1979-81 to an annual average of 2.86 million tons in 1982-86. Not only did this continued practice force Americans to spend more than other consumers for sugar, but it created hardships for Latin American countries and the Philippines, which depend on sugar exports for economic development. The quota program undermined President Reagan’s Caribbean Basin Initiative and intensified the international debt crisis.(37)

— Negotiated to increase restrictiveness of the Multifiber Arrangement and extended restrictions to previously unrestricted textiles. The administration unilaterally changed the rule of origin in order to restrict textile and apparel imports further and imposed a special ceiling on textiles from the People’s Republic of China.(38) Finally, it pressured Hong Kong, Taiwan, and South Korea, the largest exporters of textiles and apparel to the United States, into highly restrictive bilateral agreements. All told, textile and apparel restrictions cost Americans more than $20 billion a year.(39) The Reagan administration has stated several times that textile and apparel imports should grow no faster than the domestic market.(40)

— Required 18 countries—including Brazil, Spain, South Korea, Japan, Mexico, South Africa, Finland, and Australia, as well as the European Community—to accept “voluntary restraint agreements” to reduce steel imports, guaranteeing domestic producers a share of the American market. When 3 countries not included in the 18—Canada, Sweden, and Taiwan— increased steel exports to the United States, the administration demanded talks to check the increase. The administration also imposed tariffs and quotas on specialty steel. These policies, with their resulting shortages, have severely squeezed American steel-using firms, making them less competitive in world markets and eliminating more than 52,000 jobs.(41)

— Imposed a five-year duty, beginning at 45 percent, on Japanese motorcycles for the benefit of Harley Davidson, which admitted that superior Japanese management was the cause of its problems.(42)

— Raised tariffs on Canadian lumber and cedar shingles.

— Forced the Japanese into an agreement to control the price of computer memory-chip exports and increase Japanese purchases of American-made chips. When the agreement was allegedly broken, the administration imposed a 100 percent tariff on $300 million worth of electronics goods. This episode teaches a classic lesson in how protectionism comes back to haunt a country’s producers. The quotas established as a result of the agreement have created a severe shortage of memory chips and higher prices for American computer makers, putting them at a disadvantage with foreign competitors. Only two American firms are still making these chips, accounting for a small percentage of the world market.(43)

— Removed Third World countries from the duty-free import program for developing nations on several occasions.

— Pressed Japan to force its automakers to buy more American-made parts.(44)

— Demanded that Taiwan, West Germany, Japan, and Switzerland restrain their exports of machine tools, with some market shares rolled back to 1981 levels. Other countries were warned not to increase their shares of the U.S. market.

— Accused the Japanese of dumping roller bearings, because the price did not rise to cover a fall in the value of the yen. The U.S. Customs Service was ordered to collect duties equal to the so-called dumping margins.(45)

— Accused the Japanese of dumping forklift trucks and color picture tubes.(46)

— Failed to ask Congress to end the ban on the export of Alaskan oil and of timber cut from federal lands, a measure that could substantially increase U.S. exports to Japan.

— Redefined “dumping” in order “to make it easier to bring charges of unfair trade practices against certain competitors.”(47)

— Beefed up the Export-Import Bank, an institution dedicated to promoting the exports of a handful of large companies at the expense of everyone else.(48)

— Extended quotas on imported clothespins.


118 posted on 03/12/2016 3:47:09 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Elsie

We use all kinds of electronic and computer components made in China in our military systems. I assume it is because we do not make the items, otherwise it makes no sense to buy Chinese stuff.


119 posted on 03/12/2016 3:57:51 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: central_va

Thank you for this excellent info on Reagan!


120 posted on 03/12/2016 3:59:52 PM PST by Disestablishmentarian (.)
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